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eBay UK’s Rob Hattrell offers to defer fees for 30 days during Coronavirus crisis

By Chris Dawson March 21, 2020 - 8:14 pm

eBay have been working furiously behind the scenes over the weekend working out how to best support sellers during the Coronavirus crisis and Rob Hattrell phoned Tamebay this Saturday evening to announce that eBay will defer certain selling fee payments for all registered business sellers for 30 days to give some relief.

What are eBay doing to mobilise Seller Assistance?

eBay are rapidly mobilising to assist sellers through this time with thousands of support staff being redeployed to work at home. This is by no means a trivial matter when you have call centres which, coupled with a massive increase in calls, is why if you’ve contacted them may be why you couldn’t get through on the phone or had a slower than normal reply.

Earlier this week, eBay put steps in place to protect your seller standards. If though hard work and doing the right thing you’ve earned seller status they pledged to ensure your seller status is protected for at least the next 90 days. They want to ensure that if, through not fault of your own, your business is hit during the Coronavirus crisis that you are treated in the same manner as you have been for the last three months (or year if you’re on a year seller status assessment).

At the same time eBay have been working hard to protect the marketplace reputation, effectively also your reputation, from those looking to profit excessively with price gouging. Every time a consumer points to an eBay listing and says “Look how they’re ripping you off”, that’s one more buyer that won’t want to purchase from eBay and that’s why they’ve restricted the sale of all masks and hand sanitiser products on the marketplace. eBay want you to list your inventory and want to support you and your business reputation so what they won’t do is allow sellers to take advantage of consumers (many of whom with underlying health concerns or who are older are literally terrified due to the Coronavirus crisis). If you see egregious price gouging report the listings to eBay who will take action.

eBay UK defer fees for 30 days during Coronavirus crisis

Rob Hattrell, who is working all weekend, wanted to reassure sellers that eBay are here for them and so the next step is to relieve some of the pressure on eBay businesses with the offer to defer fees for the next 30 days. For many eBay sellers, after stock and shipping, their eBay fees are their biggest single outgoing (roughly 10-12% of sales) and so deferring fees instantly adds free cash flow into the business, perhaps for paying salaries or ordering in more stock.

More details will be forthcoming next week, but in the mean time here is Rob’s message to eBay Businesses:

“All of us in the UK are facing an uncertain future at the moment. At eBay, we’ve been working as hard as we can to make sure we do the best we can for the business sellers in our community. We know that you’re facing enormous challenges with how much is changing due to COVID-19. We want to work in partnership with you through this difficult time.
 
Following on from the seller standards protection we announced earlier this week, we asked many of you what support you need right now. You told us you need help with cash flow and flexibility with making fee payments. So we’re putting a plan together to defer certain selling fee payments for all registered business sellers for 30 days.
 
We want to relieve some of the pressure you’re telling us you’re facing and give you the flexibility needed to sustain your business.
 
If you have a business seller account, and could use help with your payments, visit the COVID-19 Seller Centre page on Wednesday 25 March where details on the next steps will become available.
 
Please look after yourselves, be safe. Thank you for being a part of our community, and for selling on eBay.”

 
– Rob Hattrell, Vice President, eBay UK

  • Jim
    2 months ago

    Reduction in fees are whats needed
    Deferring fees for 30 days is not that inspiring.
    This nightmare will last a lot longer than 30days

    • J.MAHONEY
      2 months ago

      What about the buyers ??

    • dan
      2 months ago

      ebay must do something to support their long time loyal sellers , who pay large monthly fees to run their ebay stores. the commission fees are fine as the will reflect the drop and rise in sales and reduce and rise to reflect sales . The monthly membership fees must be waived now if existing stores are to make it through this global economic downturn.
      access to stock is reduced and the current fee structure is not sustainable for sellers who try to make ebay their primary source of income .
      there is also evidence of a lot of returns as buyers try to get money back for items they purchased when in different financial circumstances.
      the current assistance offered by ebay and paypal is a short term delay to the failure of many ebay businesses.

  • Alan Paterson
    2 months ago

    Rob is a STAR………

  • Barry S.
    2 months ago

    It will be longer than 30 days for sure. I cancelled my store and unlisted everything last week. Nice gesture I suppose from him but it’s somewhat preying on those sellers who think this news event will blow over after a few weeks.

    • 2 months ago

      Or some very real support freeing up cash flow so that business can pay their staff while they wait for promised Government support to kick in?

  • 2 months ago

    Again, like government help for self employed, it’s too little.

    This will just mean a whacking fee bill down the line that will cause problems later for sellers.

    It’s the anchor shop fees that need to be scrapped during this period.

    Paying fees on what you sell is not a problem. You are selling, therefore you can pay.

    Its those crippling fixed fees that you pay even if you activate the holiday settings on your shop. Also, you can’t suspend your subscription and resume it, you lose all your feedback and trading history.

    So Mr Hattrell need to address this NOW.

    Unless Ebay address this I will be closing our 2 anchor shops next week after 16 years as people have stopped buying for obvious reasons.

    I’m unlikely to come back as I would start on feedback of zero and have to repopulate my inventory from scratch again. No thank you.

    Mr Hattrell, consider the long term view here that you could lose some longstanding excellent sellers and your marketplace will be diminished as a result once all this is over.

    You say Ebay is working as “hard as it can” to do the best for its sellers. Clearly you are trying to balance out helping sellers with appeasing shareholders. But even you must know in your heart that what Ebay is offering sellers is nowhere near enough to help them survive this crisis. And if we don’t survive, will Ebay?

    • Charles
      2 months ago

      I 100% agree with Andy, there is no problem paying fees on sales, it’s the underlying fixed monthly costs which are the problem, and when you have 1000’s of listings that stop selling it’s a problem. I have 2 anchor stores and will this week close one which offers specialist spare parts, the other which is more general will probably close at the end of this billing cycle. I am also going to use the coming time and some of the Gov help to look properly at Shopify. I really think Ebay have to address this situation more seriously, yes they are a business, but without sellers actually they don’t have a business. Interesting times, stay safe everyone.

  • Jim
    2 months ago

    In reality the ability to defer fees for 30 days
    Has always been available
    To those that play the invoice and payment. System

  • Jim
    2 months ago

    Deferring fees for 30 days about as helpful
    As inviting us all down the pub
    As normal ebay doing the right thing Is dressed up as a favour
    Mr Hattrel
    These are not normal times

  • LEE PEARCE
    2 months ago

    Here is how i read it:

    As a business, i want to come out the other side ready to go again.

    The government are doing many thinks that will facilitate that process, which is mostly to do with Cash Flow for us, (Business Rates cuts, Business Loans & Deferment of some Tax Payments) and putting money in the pockets of the people that are our customers, by guaranteeing their wages.

    The initial problem will be that some of these will take a few weeks to come to fruition and so deferment of any payments is welcome.

    I do not expect Free Money, but will take it if offered, i’m hoping my business was on a sound enough footing to ride this through, what i expect is that the businesses we owe money to understand the situation and cut some slack.

    Some organisations will be better than others, and some will beggar belief.

    Where we can pay a bill we owe, i will pay as i do not want to store up larger payments down the line also those businesses will have cash flow issues themselves.

    For our own mental health, i think being positive about concessions that come our way is far better than sniping at it.

    • Jim
      2 months ago

      @lee we mostly agree
      Though as you say some will beggar belief
      we are putting ebays present stance in that category

  • Jim
    2 months ago

    If you thought returns were a problem after christmas
    Just wait
    A tsunami of returns are about to hit
    Once this bites
    What is ebay going to do to help?

    • Lianne
      2 months ago

      Yes, we sell wedding & party accessories and are already getting numerous returns 😣

  • J R
    2 months ago

    Why do you think there will be so many returns ??

    • Jim
      2 months ago

      Every one who has purchased in the last 30 days who works in a travel agency airline or pub will think to I really need this

  • J R
    2 months ago

    Regarding Ebay deferring fees, it won’t be enough.

    As a seller I will be lowering prices on many items and sending discount offers to watchers, I have already done this and achieved some sales. I have lost some profit however it gives me more cash flow. If I took eBay’s approach I would be asking the buyer to make up the difference between the offer price and the full price in 30 days, clearly this isn’t going to happen.

    Ebay need to think about the bigger picture here, if they don’t help sellers out more in the short term they (Ebay) will suffer in the medium term.

  • Skeggy Mick
    2 months ago

    Deferring fees is only creating a bigger problem down the line, I too have cancelled my shop sub and there’s little interest in my new listings.

    How about just 100 free listings from ebay, so the income from the few that sell doesn’t get eaten by the many that don’t.

    SM

    • J R
      2 months ago

      How is 100 free listings going to help business sellers ? It isn’t. We have enough free listings, that isn’t the problem.

  • J R
    2 months ago

    Just say you are a self employed sole trader.

    Prior to this crisis:

    Your sales were 70k with a gross profit of 35k, Ebay took around 8.4k of that (fees at 10% plus 20% VAT), I have not included shop costs, promoted listings costs etc. You then have to pay Paypal costs as well as other running costs. Once everything is said and done you may have ended up with 16 – 22k.

    Post this crisis many sellers will have to reduce prices to get some cash flow going, so now:

    Your sales are 60k however you have only managed this by discounting prices, gross profit is now 20k, Ebay are still taking 7.2k, so whilst they are taking a bit of a hit the seller now has earnings that have fallen through the floor. Add in all the other costs you will now be down to earnings of 5 – 10k.

    This is what I think will have to many sole traders who have been simply making a living for the last few years.

    It will get to the point where it simply isn’t worth the effort.

    Clearly the length of this crisis is key however if it is around for 6 – 24 months I think sole traders on Ebay will be smashed to pieces.

    • jim
      2 months ago

      ebay thinks it might just be 30days ????

    • Charles
      2 months ago

      Sadly that is an exact view of the situation and what it will become

  • SAM
    2 months ago

    This won’t be any good for myself. My shop has been on holiday mode for two weeks as I have been out doing delivery all that time, yeah I get overtime but no income from online selling is a big hit, and the wife us job is prob going to go.

    I would like the option to be able to put the thing in holiday mode for as long as possible with our paying them a set fee for nowt. It takes ages to get all those listings up to spec and you will just lose it all if you cancel.
    30 days the guy is dreaming this thing is just at the beginning.

    Tbh this lot will want their pound of flesh whatever

  • NorthCrystal
    2 months ago

    eBay HQ folks must live on the moon, same as UK government.
    Deferring – some of – the fees? To improve cash flow to e.g buy stock?!
    Our stock comes from abroad (including Italy….) and nothing is coming into UK right now. Not many people buying the products either.

  • Rob
    2 months ago

    eBay, if you want to help, reduce your shop fees in half or cut them all together. Take the packing voucher price off at least as a lot of sellers won’t be needing packing supplies.
    I know what works in one section won’t work in another as some sections of ebay will hardly have any sales at all and others will be through the roof. Maybe do it section by section with a reduction in final value fees for the sellers being hit the hardest.

    • 2 months ago

      “Take the packing voucher price off at least as a lot of sellers won’t be needing packing supplies.”

      Or at least let them rollover/accumulate, so when we do need to use them, we can get a decent amount of packing supplies.

      I will only spend less than the value of the voucher anyway, as I use a local package manufacturer for all our boxes and bet I’m not the only one. But if they could roll them over for say several months, then the accumulated vouchers could be spent in 1 go, to buy a bigger, better value bundle of boxes.

      This would be better for the packaging company, the environment and the sellers. Is there much cost to ebay? They’d lose the unspent vouchers, but how much does that come to?

  • 2 months ago

    Welcome support from eBay. Every bit helps. I note that Amazon have nothing in place to protect merchants metrics.

    • Alan Paterson
      2 months ago

      Well said Nick. At least we have someone on this thread sensible and seeing the assistance offered as at least positive. Folk are babbling on as if ebay are doing nothing.

  • Dave
    2 months ago

    It would be nice if ebay started to look at the situation with some deliveries, especially the Royal Mail going contact free…..and thus not taking a signature on delivery.

    All i had from ebay the other day was an announcement for buyers saying if you dont get an item, get a full refund, buyer protection etc.

    How as a seller, when i buy a signed for service, prove delivery when the RM do not take a signature…….most buyers will be okay, but some will see the loophole and claim, ebay instantly, blindly refund / embargo the sellers money…….and I cannot provide proof of delivery…..no signature taken.

    this may look like ebay is on the sellers side, but it has been years since ebay gave any thought to the seller, they back the buyer. Yes, you need buyers, but no sellers = no buyers.

    I would like ebay to be as proactive on both sides and both are equally needed.

  • 2 months ago

    Its the fixed shop fees that are the killer, if they are serious about maintaining the business model and given the Amazon competition that is set to decimate the high street even more go to a % fee basis so if you sell something you pay the fee.

  • Pete
    2 months ago

    During this crisis it is likely that we will have to stop selling at some point probably soon and possibly for a number of months, the thing that will hit us is having to pay anchor shop fees. We are all stuck with the choice of ending our listings and dropping the shop subscription while loosing the history and positioning or going holiday mode while having the burden of the anchor fees with no income. Ebay need to think long and hard on this as they could loose a significant number of sellers for good. Deferring fees is a nice gesture but we will ultimately have to pay it back, I don’t mind paying fees for what I sell but while closed down fees will come out of reserves which is far from ideal

  • Jon
    2 months ago

    “eBay have been working furiously behind the scenes over the weekend”

    Result? Don’t worry about your £480 this month, you can just pay double next month.

    Cheers for taking the hit, ebay. Really appreciate it.

    • SAM
      2 months ago

      Brilliant comment sums that lot up.

  • Joanna
    2 months ago

    Simple really, remove all business sellers shop fee’s regardless of what shop you have but keep sales fee’s going, that way it’s a level playing field and no business is treated any different from another, also that needs back dating so shop fee’s are not in this months invoice and if any business wants to zero it’s stock levels or go into holiday mode there is cost involved (shop fee’s) and history / feedback / metric’s all saved.
    eBay this is about saving your business as well as ours, nobody is going to be a winner by the end of this so you need to take it on the chin the same as the rest of us.

  • Jon
    2 months ago

    I’m stuck in my rented flat, looking after my girlfriend who actually has C-19, trying to avoid it myself, being Type 1 Diabetes. I can’t go outside, we’re in quarantine. So my Ebay shop is off, no income now, my rent still has to be paid, and eBay won’t even waive anchor fees while the shop is closed? 30 days until a double payment isn’t any help whatsoever.

    Characteristically harsh, but hey, fair. Everything for the landlord, everything for eBay. No concession whatsoever. All I care about for now is getting my girlfriend better., but I’m not going to be quite so easy to deal with in future.

    • Ratso Restorations
      2 months ago

      Thinking of you and your partner Jon-the best of luck.

      My good lady has been having chemotherapy , lives 30 miles away and I`m now waiting for my 12 weeks isolation letter as I have COPD. In the last 5 months I`ve had to put my shop on holiday settings so often that sales / income has dropped to near nothing. We live off our savings and the one thing that might help from Ebay is the dropping of the monthly fees so at least I could try and get the business going again at the end of all this with my trusted seller rating etc…..

      Ahh well Ebay….

  • Mr Grumpy
    2 months ago

    Absolutely USELESS…

    Is that really the best eBay can do…

  • 2 months ago

    Accepting that Ebay have to pay their own fees, wages etc etc, maybe removing the shop fees but adding a % point (not necasseraly a whole % point but something) to the final valuation fees. At least you then get no sale no fee, keep your sales history, go in to holiday mode without worry. And being fair to Ebay, they are not loosing out completely. this is an in it together problem and there are no easy solutions but defferals only accumulate problems down the line.

    Just a thought.

  • Annie
    2 months ago

    “Rob Hattrell, who is working all weekend” – welcome to the real world of ebayers weekends. Now perhaps you have the merest inkling of what we do all the time.

    Deferred payments will only get us into deeper debt as this isn’t going to go away in a month. Removing shop subscription fees for 3 months should be your starting point.

  • Chris
    2 months ago

    Remove shop subscriptions for 3 months and then review otherwise you will be seen as profiting from this virus too !

  • 2 months ago

    “eBay UK’s Rob Hattrell offers to defer fees for 30 days during Coronavirus crisis”. It’s arguably better than nothing, but deferring shop subscription fees a month is a flaccid effort given the current global environment.

    If eBay truly wanted to ”Help in ways that matter most” eBay would quickly implement one or more of the following for sellers in good standing:

    – Provisional *elimination* of Shop/Store Subscription fees for at current level, for current subscribers
    – *Reduction* of selling fees. 50% sounds about right
    – Pass-through better eBay shipping label savings
    – Issuance of an additional monthly Promoted Listings credit based on shop subscription level

    Ebay’s doing some end-of-quarter buyer incentives in the US & UK too, but with some economists predicting 30% unemployment in the states, eBay is going to need to ‘share the pain’ with its sellers in a more meaningful way that deferring shop fees for a few weeks.

  • Trumpton
    2 months ago

    Rob Hattrell whos worked all weekend has only come up with deferring fees !?!?!

    Defering fees for 30 days is an absolutely crap offer. Only a large fee reduction can help. Worked it out yet?

  • jim
    2 months ago

    Rob Hattrell can only be an Avatar
    not programmed to listen or see reality

  • 2 months ago

    Some pretty ungrateful comments here.

    eBay owes you nothing, but has offered to suspend collection of the biggest fees they take and prevent the thing that most of us fear — account downgrade. Compare with Amazon closing FBA and sending out constant reminders about hitting SFP targets. And you’re coming here to complain about Rob?

    As a first step, I’d say they’ve hit the ball pretty close to the hole. Can they do more to attract buyers into the marketplace? Do they need to look at things in 30 days and see if they can delay further? Can they help sellers who have to mothball to preserve their precious accounts? I’m sure there is and I’m sure eBay is looking at that right now, but for me right now, I’m looking at this one week and one month at a time and this helps me to keep business ticking over, stock coming in, staff employed. And anything that keeps that going for longer is good for chances of a swift recovery.

    And frankly I’m waking up pretty grateful that I am not working in hospitality or events — online sales is a category that might see a strong boom as people avoid the shops and are stuck at home, so I’ll take all the help I can right now to keep the lights on and maybe help serve that demand.

    Hope everyone in this community stays well and finds a way to navigate their businesses through these uncertain times. I had no expectation other than that I would have to do that alone as I have for the past 20 years, and I for one feel extremely supported by the announcements of Sunak and Hattrell that I’m not left entirely on my own to get through this.

    • Jim
      2 months ago

      Mr Brackin
      Could some disclosure be in order here?

    • Trumpton
      2 months ago

      Sorry, nothing ungrateful here. in 60 days time, you will pay double fees. Why on earth you think that would help anyone is beyond me.

    • 2 months ago

      Because if you can pay your staff today rather than your eBay fees and wait for government assistance while you’re business is shut down, you might have a business to come back to in 12 weeks time.

      Keeping cash in the business is crucial at the moment and this is massive help from eBay for those it will assist. If it doesn’t help you just pay your fees now!

      Dan Wilson, who used to work for eBay, once told me that some eBay sellers are so ungrateful that if you gave them a fiver they’d complain it was crumpled! Be grateful for help if it’s useful, don’t complain if it’s not, because everyone is stressed… whinging and complaining doesn’t help anyone.

    • Jim
      2 months ago

      Whinging and complaining
      Or indignation of long time customers hoping for some useful help .not to be patronised

    • Jim
      2 months ago

      Too right were ungrateful

      As we have alluded to in another post even in normal times
      We can self defer paying fees for 30 days without sanctions by simply not paying the invoice

    • Alan Paterson
      2 months ago

      Fantastic post David. Couldn’t have put it better.

  • Rob
    2 months ago

    Anyone else get a text from ebay saying taxes will be free for 2 months? It seems to of come from ebay as on the same message thread as collection order codes. Nothing in ebay messages, email or on ebay pages.

    Message is: Because of Covid-19 our taxes will be free for 2 months. Apply now at web address ending ebay.co.uk/VAT

    • 2 months ago

      It’s phishing spam. Don’t click the link because it doesn’t go to eBay!!!

  • J R
    2 months ago

    Chris,

    The thing is the deferral stinks of:

    “We are Ebay and we will not lose out because of this virus”.

    Hardly the everyone in it together attitude they should be portraying at the moment imho.

    Ebay could win a few friends here with the right approach.

  • Rob Oakley
    2 months ago

    The fact that ebay sold off a ticketing website the other week for billions yet can’t give sellers a break other than delay fees, keep your account ratings the same and extend the period for item specifics in certain categories speaks volumes.

  • Terry
    2 months ago

    Personally, I am not sure a deferral of fees is an enormous help.

    Everyone has an axe hanging over their neck as it is, all this does is make the axe even bigger 30 days later.

    I think the suggestion of waiving shop fees is an excellent one. It is a fixed cost which is a problem (one of many) if there are no sales.

    E-Bay makes enormous profits every year, and I wouldn’t have thought that waiving shop fees for a couple of months is going to put them out of business.

    Perhaps better phrased like this – Mr Hattrell, its your round mate.

    Oh yes, Bezos, richest man on the planet allegedly, its your round too mate.

    Society is going to have a very long memory from this period in our history, and those who fail to step up to the plate will not live it down easily.

    Your move 1%.

  • Dean
    2 months ago

    Need shop anchor fees and listing fees suspended whilst shop is on holiday until this is over. Too much work to cancel 1000’s of listings that now can’t be bought 😩

  • Nick
    2 months ago

    There’s a fairly obvious point that needs clarification. There’s little possibility of sales, since dropping off parcels is a non essential trip, and it will surely become an issue if posties are risking their health to pick up non-essential parcels.

    So, do we switch on our shop holiday settings, while still paying ebay for those same shops, or do we terminate our shop subscriptions and accept that we have to laboriously list all those listings when things get back to normal?

    The obvious solution would be for ebay to waive shops that are “on holiday”, but either they haven’t considered this situation, or they have done and want to price gouge almost every ebay shop owning business seller in the UK.

  • Carl
    2 months ago

    Nick. Where did anyone say that dropping off parcels is non-essential? Do you have a source please?
    Post offices are remaining open, Royal Mail statement says the post will continue (albeit, maybe a little slower).
    Why are they remaining open and Royal Mail continuing if no-one is allowed to use them?

    • Nick
      2 months ago

      @Carl.
      I don’t have a source, but I suspect that if a seller got stopped by the police, and tried to claim that dropping off parcels contain clothing, or a sat nav, or a baseball hat, might be interpreted as “non essential, with the seller having to pay a fine, possibly an enormous fine.
      I’m not saying this will be the case, but we need clarification that we can all swan around clutching, what the powers that be, are highly likely to regard as non-essential parcels.

  • Gill
    2 months ago

    I am a very small registered sole business seller on eBay with eBay shop and also work 12 hours in a supermarket to supplement income. At the moment no one is buying but I face a crippling eBay fee to be paid soon. I am in a quandary as what to do, shut up shop and stop selling on eBay or hope eBay see sense and give us all a chance by waiving shop fees and support us whilst in this current crisis.
    Looking forward to hearing what eBay say in next few days.

  • Geoff
    2 months ago

    Carl does make a good point. Why would the post office be open if we weren’t allowed to use it?

    By it being allowed to stay open, all of its services are being considered as “essential”.

    • Nick
      2 months ago

      @Geoff.
      Just think about this for a moment.
      Many post offices are chemists, or located in food shops.
      We’re told that the virus can remain active on a parcel for up to 72 hours, we ourselves might have the virus, and we’ll be mixing with older people that could easily find their trip to a combined post office / chemist could prove fatal. just how much risk do you want people standing next to you to take, just so you can sell stuff during a lockdown?
      Can you see where I’m coming from on this one?
      It might work if we could shove pre-labelled parcels through a hatch at a RM distribution centre, but I’m pretty sure that mixing it with potentially vulnerable members of the public, in a small post office, is going to be absolutely something that must not happen, with stiff fines for those who think they can.

    • Carl
      2 months ago

      @Nick
      Your argument could be used for anything including supermarkets, doctors etc…even the local park.
      Some small Post Offices have closed, but most are remaining open.
      The rules in them (as I saw today) are the same as the supermarket or Boots. People had to keep their distance, the workers are behind a glass wall wearing gloves.
      The exact same rule as anywhere else. So how is the Post Office a special case to avoid, while a Supermarket isn’t?
      Boris also made it crystal clear that people were allowed to carry on trading online…please see his speech.
      How do they get things they have sold to their customers please if not through posting?

  • 2 months ago

    Rules are clear. You can go out and about to do your work if you can’t do it from home. This includes dropping to post office if that’s part of your work.

    Even at work, and especially if that work involves queueing at the post office, you must maintain 2m separations.

    • Nick
      2 months ago

      @David.
      “Rules are clear. You can go out and about to do your work if you can’t do it from home. This includes dropping to post office if that’s part of your work.”

      Wrong. You must stay at home unless you are performing essential work. Nipping out to post non-essential parcels is neither fulfilling essential work, nor complying with the requirement to stay at home. Can you not see that?

    • 2 months ago

      Hi Nick — I appreciate there is some confusion around messaging today, but the government’s final communications were that leaving the house to do non-essential work is allowed only if it is necessary to leave the house to do that work. Ie if you can’t work from home.

      You can read this on the gov.uk/coronavirus

      If you have an updated link that shows otherwise, I’d like to see it.

    • 2 months ago

      @Nick

      From Wales online

      “The Government has now published documentation detailing exactly which retailers are allowed to keep physical stores open and which must shut. All retailers are allowed to sell online. ”

      This site is full of links to .gov pages.

      just to confuse everyone I think!

  • Nick
    2 months ago

    We seem to be following the same pattern of deaths as Italy but, unlike the Italian health service which is incredibly comprehensive, ours has been creaky for years. Which means we’ll be seeing death in a way not seen since the war, particularly since many people in the UK simply don’t understand the consequences of their ambivalent actions.

    I suspect, that within a few days, we’ll be told to stop using the postal service, or couriers, because we will need those delivery channels to continuously (and reliably) supply millions of essential items every day.

    There will be no room for ebay sellers to distribute non-essential products, and we have to stop trying to kid ourselves that we can somehow circumvent the obvious requirements for total lockdown.

  • Nick
    2 months ago

    @David.
    It’s a big ask to interpret the .gov advice in such an ebay friendly way in my opinion, but I suspect this argument may be academic. UK parcel services may well have to prioritise essential item distribution, possibly within days.

    Personally, despite the financial loss, I’ve resigned myself to the lockdown, switched on my shop’s holiday settings, and we’re staying indoors.
    But apart from anything, given that we’re pensioners, I’d rather not go anywhere near anyone else at the moment, thank you very much.

    Ok, that’s all I have to say on the subject, other than to wish everyone a safe transition through this difficult time, and a speedy financial recovery for all ebay sellers caught up in this dreadful situation. Peace.

    • Jim
      2 months ago

      Some here seem to be missing the point
      Its not about how we can continue trading
      Its how we can save lives?

  • Jim
    2 months ago

    Cant believe that posting Anything other than medical or food is essential ,
    We wont be going to a post office swopping infections

  • Jim
    2 months ago

    Posting some trivial trinket to make a shilling is just not right
    if it results in a 80 year old grandmother collecting her pension
    Ending her days on a ventilator
    Gasping for breath

    • 2 months ago

      If someone is complying with government guidelines, and going about their lawful business which the government are ENCOURAGING to stay open, then it is not appropriate to accuse them of misbehaviour. You might as well accuse the postmaster of misbehaviour for following government guidelines to stay open.

  • Jim
    2 months ago

    We have Lots of Argos click and collect packages in the system
    Now not able to be collected
    What is ebays advice and how are they going to offer any help

  • fred
    2 months ago

    Keeping couriers and mail order going boosts morale and discourages people going out.

  • Mr Grumpy
    2 months ago

    @ Jim

    I supply tools to lorry & other mechanics that keep stuff on the roads delivering stuff, & keeping Ambulances, Police Cars on the road.

    Tools are also needed to keep equipment working!!

    Should I shut up Shop…

    Think Not – There is a bigger picture

    • Jim
      2 months ago

      @mr grumpy
      If your standing in a post office queue to fo it your not that essential
      Most professional emergency vehicle repairers have a snap on ,rep or similar
      With a van calling regularly

  • J R
    2 months ago

    Jim,

    Have the day off mate.

    The message thus far is that online businesses are open and post offices are open.

    That is where we stand, if someone wants to take their parcels up to the post office, that is up to them, they just need to do it in the most thoughtful way they can.

    • Mr Grumpy
      2 months ago

      Good Idea…

      @ Jim,

      I have a RM Collection service, so no need to stand in any queue’s.

      look at the BIGGER PICTURE Mate…

  • Jim
    2 months ago

    Ok J R
    I am bored with the selfish stupidity and
    Ignorance of others

  • Jon
    2 months ago

    Unless your online business is supplying essentials like food or meds, you should be staying home. I don’t know how much clearer it could be.

  • J R
    2 months ago

    Jim,

    Selfish stupidity was the idiots who were crowding at the seaside over the weekend eating food outside cafes etc etc.

    A small business dropping a bag of parcels off at their local post office is not selfish stupidity imho.

    If the post office is packed you go back to your vehicle and wait however I am expecting most post offices to be pretty quiet, a lot of their regular users will be housebound by the virus.

    Perhaps if the government come out and offer the self employed something some will decide to shut up.

  • Jon
    2 months ago

    Cut n Pasted from politics.co.uk
    ________
    I am stranded in Greece at the moment. The whole country is on lock-down. As of 6am Monday morning, I must fill in a permit form in order to leave my house, and it must fulfil a set of predetermined criteria. Otherwise I am fined. Repeated breaches can lead to my arrest.

    The Greek government is following World Health Organisation advice. It is taking draconian action, even though it is behind the UK cases/deaths curve. I don’t feel oppressed. I feel protected. Because I understand the context of this is a deadly pandemic.

    I like having clear instructions. Things here are calm. The supermarkets have everything in stock. The public supports the measures. They are adults. They understand.

    The reaction of the UK seems to me a classic category error. Because the only recent crisis reference point is terrorism, we have been taught that the right reaction is defiance. Carrying on. Not letting them win. This makes perfect sense in those circumstances. The terrorist’s goal is to disrupt your life. You win by not letting him disrupt it.

    A virus has no such goal. Its sole imperative is to propagate. You’re not being defiant by aiding it. You’re being dangerously dim.

  • lotus nut
    2 months ago

    Businesses allowed to remain open are:-

    Supermarkets and other food shops
    Health shops
    Pharmacies including nondispensing pharmacies
    Petrol stations
    Bicycle shops
    Home and hardware shops
    Laundrettes and dry cleaners
    Garages
    Car rentals
    Pet shops
    Corner shops
    Newsagents
    Post offices
    Banks
    On line retailers

    As stated on Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government document

  • Steve Heaton
    2 months ago

    I can’t see the issue here, deferring fees is not a good solution to anyone, don’t do it.

    Check your business interruption policies and speak to your insurer, any eBay sellers who rely on sales and are a ‘business’ will have a comprehensive policy to protect against this stuff.

    Also if you don’t sell anything you won’t pay any fees, if you sell a lot then surely you want to pay your fees, the higher your bill the better? Yes sales will suffer over the coming weeks but cutting prices won’t help, keep to your prices otherwise you are ruining your market. If everyone jumps on that bandwagon it will take ages for your market to recover and you’ll end up making a loss just to be competitive when everyone else follows suit, it’s not good business.

    The other issue is going to be sellers struggling for new stock, as we all know, the more you list, the more you sell and some will struggle to do that at the moment which will affect sales.

    No shop fees would be helpful, or an adjustment to fees certainly just to give sellers assistance for maybe 3 months.

    Good luck everyone, chins up!!

  • Dan osborne
    2 months ago

    WOW
    thanks ebay.
    A payment holiday…..
    The biggest crisis in decades and you offer a payment holiday to sellers
    As a minimum stopping the shop fees whilst business is dead in the water would have been helpful,you would still be getting any fees on actual sales and helping in the main the little self employed guys trying to make a living.
    Guess it’s TRUE what I read elsewhere,sellers are not valued by ebay
    We will remember who was helpful during this unprecedented situation and many many big companys are helping as in the long term it makes sense.

  • Chris
    2 months ago

    Absolutely disgusted with ebay’s ‘help’. Fee deferment? Are you having a laugh!! No money coming in, but you still want paying…..for what exactly? Shows exactly how valued your sellers are.
    Disgusted, but not surprised.
    I’m done with them.

  • ifellow
    2 months ago

    Whats 30 days going to do against the relentless highly promoted and helped Chinese sellers.

    Not much at all long term.

  • ifellow
    2 months ago

    So eBay knows domestic sellers, are living hand to mouth and making hardly anything ?

    Not a nice look !

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