Why Labour need to get over Brexit and accept it’s happening
With just 25 days left to the 31st of January – the date the UK is scheduled to officially leave the EU, there is still some political wrangling going on both in the Lords and from the Labour opposition.
The House of Lords is the main obstacle, although remainer Lords are in the tricky position that convention dictates they don’t wreck pledges made in the winning Party Manifesto and the scale of the Conservative landslide makes it almost unthinkable they they would derail the bill. What they may do is add on a few amendments. The withdrawal bill is expected to pass the Lords around the 22nd of January.
Meanwhile, in the Commons, Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has proposed an amendment which would give a two year Brexit delay, extending the transition period to 2023 if a future trade deal with the EU isn’t completed by the 15th of June – the deadline for requesting an extension from the EU. Labour say that this is to restore the power of Parliament if a no deal looks likely at the end of 2020.
There are some major problems with the proposed amendment, not least of which is that it’s hard to see it passing due to the Conservative majority and even if it did Parliament could simply vote to leave anyway later in the year.
There are deeper issues around the amendment however which are nothing to do with Brexit and much more to do with the balance of power in Parliament. Labour are done for for the foreseeable future and that leaves no opposition party to temper the Government. That might come as a relief to many who are disillusioned with Parliament’s inability to make a decision over the past couple of years, but it’s not a healthy situation to be in for the long term. Labour needs to retrench and regroup and become a party that people might want to vote for again.
Jeremy Corbyn, in his last few attempts to derail Brexit, is not doing his successor any favours. The country as a whole voted decisively to reject attempts to frustrate the EU Referendum result and Labour needs to radically rethink its position. It’s not just on Brexit the party was rejected, but their endless promises which were supposedly fully costed in their manifesto and then boosted by a load more promises in the run up to the election which no one believed were affordable.
Labour have been in trouble ever since the rise of the SNP in Scotland – many traditionally Labour Scottish seats are beyond their grasp and so Labour now needs to appeal to the heartlands of England in order to have any chance of power. The working class has changed and much is now what might be considered middle class and that’s another tranche of votes gone. More than anything, the street protests and Momentum backed rallies have given the impression that Labour is winning, but in reality it’s a million or so citizens making a lot of noise and agreeing with each other whilst totally failing to realise the rest of the country’s 60 odd million are quietly unimpressed.
Brexit is now going to happen and in all likelyhood won’t end up pleasing many at all – Remain voters will naturally be gutted whilst many Leave voters will see too many compromises for their liking. That’s life however and it has to be remembered that the future trade deal has to be good for the EU as well as the UK. What’s more important is getting past Brexit and having a political system that works and that does (at least in British politics) depend on having a strong opposition to keep the government in check.
There will doubtless be calls for a change to the biggest minority party getting into Government, but that’s how the first past the post system works. Labour had plenty of time to change to a proportional representation system if they had wanted to and it’s certain that the Conservatives won’t make changes either – a strong argument is that proportional representation takes away the ability to vote out a substandard MP.
Labour have up to five years now to regroup, get rid of Jeremy Corbyn as soon as possible and stop trying to frustrate Brexit which is moving to its conclusion. It’s time for Labour to be reborn to represent not the loudest most vocal of its members but to shape itself into a party which could, if not govern in five years time, at least become an opposition worthy of the name.
Brexit will Drag on for years and years… and BoJo has pulled the wool over everyone’s eyes.
Labour have been in trouble ever since the rise of the SNP in Scotland, they STILL do not get this in their thick HEADS.
When the Tories can get more votes in Scotland it shows how thick Corbyn and the Momentum loons actually are. Labour need Scotland ( and the North in England) like the Tories need the privileged South east to WIN any election.
Momentum need to just go away and create a far left loon party somewhere, keep talking to each other as aint anyone else listening.
Labour for all the time they have been around have not been in power that much in reality, apart from the Blair years.
We are probably going to have another 10 years of these Dreadful Tories (and it will be working people who will pay the price) , tax dodgers, and corporate greed will rule supreme, slave labour, poor working conditions and social mobility will all pay the price. Take a photo of your town now and the state of it after 10 years of the Tories and take one in 10 years of what is left…
However you simply cannot ignore the 2016 vote ( Lib Dems also) you just cause resentment and chaos.
I am in a Union right now also so I think I get some sort of vote in it also am not sure how it works but I look at the so called contenders it is not much of a list, I would say Nandy seems the most in touch.
@Sam How will Brexit drag on for years because of BoJo?
Brexit should be over by the 31st of January, we will have officially left, unless some looney tunes manages to prevent it and that will not be down to Boris. I am sure Boris would be just as happy to throw the Withdrawal agreement in the bin.
After that we will either be subject to a Withdrawal agreement until the 31st December or WTO if we have left without a deal. Will we be able to get a trade deal by the 31st December? It was going to be hard enough if we had left last year on the 29 March, so all this delaying tactics has cost us valuable time.
I am not sure a proportional representation system would work, is there any election in the last 30 years that would have given us a majority government using it? We would probably end up with a hung parliament which just involves squabbles and chaos.
Labour had 10 years in power, do you really think it was a bed of roses?
So we have Dreadful Tories rather than Dreadful Labour loons, we really do not have a lot of choice.
“Brexit should be over by the 31st of January” ha ha, good joke.
Its not going to be over for about 10 years. Trade deals and agreements or lack thereof mean that is going to last a long, long time.
@Paddy How is that a joke? We do not need a trade deal to leave the EU, we can leave without a deal.
Unless something stops it we officially leave at the end of January, what part of that did you not understand?
There is an interim trade deal agreement proposed that lasts until 31 Dec 2020 but if that is not put in place we leave on Jan 31 without a deal and trade on WTO terms.
But Brexit (the act of leaving the EU) will have been done.
@Tyler, where to even start with your comments.
@Noel Your point is? You don’t have one….
What is going on with Tamebay, have you turned into a Tory party love in site? Yes technically you could say Brexit affects the UK so it is important but this is at least the 2nd article I’ve seen on here that has effectively slagged off Remainers. Whether you like it or not 48% of the UK population voted to stay in the EU. Yes after the general election and our first past the post system the Tories now have a massive majority but still they only got 43.6% of the votes, not everyone voted for them and whilst Johnson is our PM I personally will never trust a word out of his mouth, he is a serial liar. Please stick to articles about selling on Ebay and Amazon and keep this site free from politics, we have plenty of other places we can discuss those if we want to.
Almost 4 years in progress and the prime Brexit plan has not even started… it will drag for years to come I’m afraid. And someone is getting rich meanwhile too.
@NorthCrystal Another person that does not seem to understand Brexit, I guess because they thought there was more to answering Yes or No to should we stay in the EU or leave.
Brexit is the act of leaving the UK and unless I am mistaken or clearly missing something, that is now going to happen @23.00 UK time on the 31st January 2020.
After that time we will no longer be in Europe regardless of if we have a withdrawal agreement or not.
IF the Withdrawal Agreement Bill is passed, some time this month, and the UK formally leaves the EU, a new race will begin to secure a trade agreement and new partnership with the EU by the end of December 2020.
June is also the month for Britain to request an extension of its transition period beyond 2020, something Boris has pledged not to do.
Boris ran for the leadership of the Tories on the pledge that he would leave the EU without a deal should he not be happy with any agreement, he was voted in by a 2/3 majority and with a majority of 80 seats in parliment this could happen.
By December 31, 2020 If a trade deal is not in place, then Britain will fall back on to basic World Trade Organization terms, meaning tariffs on goods and little practical co-operation to smooth border checks.
The above does not look like dragging on for years to come. maybe if you had the ability to write more than a couple of feeble sentence you could explain to us what we are missing.
@tyler …and you are 2nd senior adviser to PM. Or what. You seem to know ‘a lot’ about Brexit and its related affairs. You even know the exact time of ‘exit’ this country leaves EU. Or perhaps you live in your little sunny uplands.
The time is easy. We leave on the stroke of midnight…. in Brussels. That’ll be 11pm UK time. Can’t expect the EU to operate on UK time.
@ Chris Dawson Yes the date and time has been announced several times and then been “put back”, the date has been changed but time always remains the same. I do wonder how these loons that keep making joke replies did not get the message.
@NorthCrystal Once again you are only able to manage a few feeble lines. The timeline I put up is a matter of public record that most intelligent people are aware of.
Sorry if you were not.