Royal Mail junior and middle manager Unite members vote in favour of pay deal

By Chris Dawson October 28, 2019 - 10:00 am

On Friday, Royal Mail announces Unite members voted in favour of a pay deal for junior and middle managers, which was recommended by the union. Following a turnout of 69%, 68.4% of Unite members voted in favour of the offer.

The agreement includes a cumulative two-year package of 5.37%. Managers will receive a pay increase of 2.6% this year, backdated to the 1st of September 2019, and a pay increase of 2.7% from the 1st of September 2020.

In addition, managers, including part time managers, within this pay bargaining group and who are part of the standard Royal Mail Group Annual Bonus plan will receive a £1,000 bonus advance in December 2019. This payment will be subject to tax and NI deductions and will be deducted from any final bonus payment in June 2020.

Separate discussions are taking place for Unite-represented managers in Parcelforce Worldwide.

“We are pleased to announce that Unite members have today voted in favour of Royal Mail’s pay offer to junior and middle managers. This offer recognises the continued hard work and dedication of our junior and middle managers. Working together, we are committed to creating a strong platform for the continued success of our business.”
– Sally Ashford, Chief HR Officer, Royal Mail

If only life was so simple for the rank a file Posties who belong to the CWU – having voted in favour of strike action, there is a requirement for a mediation process which takes a minimum of 7 weeks, but probably a couple of weeks longer. However we know that the mediation process started ahead of announcing the strike mandate and as close as we can figure if mediation isn’t successful (or extended) then strikes could potentially be called around the Black Friday period.

If the CWU do call out Posties on strike, it is likely that the junior and middle managers who have just agreed a pay deal will move to the front line and be out delivering letters and parcels.

  • Toby
    2 years ago

    I have some sympathy with the posties from the info i have read…. However in a world where royal mails old core business is becoming a shadow of it’s former self, and the new model of business being one in which so many other big players already have a huge foothold and a network / setup to work it, surely this is self defeating?
    Lets face it… most of the public, regardless of what they may say, are going to be more annouyed at late parcels and mail than they are going to be full of sympathy. That is life… we all support things until they negatively impact us.
    So this will drive more businesses to put more parcels through RMs competitors. This will increasingly hit profits and pay and numbers will be reduced accordingly. Sadly Royal mail is no longer on a pedestal, held as a glowing beacon of delivery. It is just one of many options available to the public and businesses and by damaging it’s reputation… it will progressively become a less important one.
    …. Of course saying all this doesn’t mean that those in charge at RM can go around treating staff how they like. If promises were made, then promises should be kept.
    I would hate to see my postie go…. great guy.

  • jim
    2 years ago

    its not surprising Royal mail has difficulty negotiating
    with those that selfishly & cynically use a festival of good will and cheer to all men
    that will effect the old ,ill, or lonely disproportionately

    • Mark
      2 years ago

      Or Jim you could look at it and conclude that the company should abide by agreements they make with their workforce and not create the situation whereby the workers feel they have no other option but to look to withdrawing their labour when prior promises aren’t kept. Postal staff will be without pay if they are to strike so it it is certainly not a decision taken lightly by them. On the other side the bosses who renege on agreements are wealthy people who won’t suffer financial loss in anywhere near the same degree if striking is the outcome. Postal staff are part of communities as well remember, many of whom have families with Christmas approaching for them also.

    • jim
      2 years ago

      @ mark
      whatever agreements were made or broken
      by the company
      if striking is the only option why not strike in January or June
      yes we know the Christmas strike has the maximum effect ,but will it have the least sympathy with the customer
      it will also have the maximum effect on the future employment of those that strike

    • Mark
      2 years ago

      It will depend who the public apportion blame to for any strike. The CWU got a massive mandate, 97% on a 76% return, to take action from their membership which demonstrates the strength of feeling. Rico Back, a multi-millionaire receiving a £6m hello from Royal Mail has basically come in tore up a democratically agreed settlement with RM, sacked the managers who negotiated the deal and by his actions behaved like an over-privileged tyrant. As Royal Mail’s head he’s acted in bad faith. How is the workforce supposed to take that ? And how much faith/ trust would they be expected to have that In delaying any action and placing trust in a management who has already triggered this dispute and acted in bad faith ?

  • Gary
    2 years ago

    Read the full facts about Rico and what he and the board getting paid and Rico history.We had a agreement they backtracked its Royal Mail at fault not the workers or the union. They Royal Mail want to Parcelforce to go separate then it be other departments just for there greed. Its a disgrace most of public dont know the true

  • 2 years ago

    @Mark & Gary, what you will find is that most have a “we don’t really care” attitude. As Toby said above, when it effects us we don’t like it regardless of how much sympathy we may have with the postie.

    This attitude is wide spread, many will argue about the right or wrong of how little tax the likes of eBay / Amazon pay into the UK coffers, but still carry on using them, either as a customer or seller. As seller constantly moan on here about how bad eBay is but carry on selling on there.

    If a strike effects my business then I need to make sure I reduce the impact, if I have to set up an account with a competitor then I am not going to come back in a hurry.

    When the strike is over and RM have lost a 500-1,000 business customers there is little point in arguing who is too blame, the damage has been done.

  • Jim
    2 years ago

    Why would the public care about the truth when all they care about is having
    a christmas card delivered

  • Sue
    2 years ago

    As the wife of a postal worker of over 35 years, I can tell you that the decision to strike is not one that comes easy. Postal workers always considered themselves to be part of a community service and would spend time ensuring that the people on their delivery rounds were ok – this included taking milk and provisions to the old, ill or young mothers with babies when the conditions were bad. Over the years we have seen this service eroded into a profit focused business that penalises postal workers for standing still for more that a couple of minutes [through tracking their ] and wants to turn all roles into part time to avoid having to pay as much in pensions payments. The business also wants to break up the postal deliveries from the parcel deliveries so that it will make it easier to sell off the profitable parts of the business, thus getting the management [Rico Back] huge bonuses. This is a man who systematically devastated parcel services in the European arm of Royal Mail and then got a £6m ‘Golden Hello’ for simply transferring to another part of the same business. He also managed to drop the value of Royal Mail shares with a negative statement about the business, then bought huge amounts of these shares when they were are rock bottom – setting himself up nicely for a good profit when the prices start to rise again. Where is the justice in this? All the postal workers are asking for is for the business to honour the agreement that was legally agreed last year – they are not asking for anything new, or for massive pay rises, all they want to do is to safeguard a service to the community that, once lost, will never be brought back. If you value the Universal Service that allows you to post an item in Lands End to go to John O’Groats and expect it to get to the door of the recipient within a couple of day then you need to support the post men and women who are fighting for YOUR postal service.

    • 2 years ago

      @Sue, you are talking about a by-gone age, business is about profit as well as providing a service. RM have improved their service over the years and face heavy competition, if you don’t evolve you die and then what? Your husband will work where or for who? The competition.

      Like many others on here, I only care about providing my customers with a service, if RM are unable to do that due to bickering then I will find a company that can.

      How do you propose that I support them?

      By shutting down my business until after the strike?
      Will the Union pay me any money for my support?
      Who will feed my family?
      Who will pay my staff?

      Do I ask my customers to support the strike and not buy from my competition?

  • Lee
    2 years ago

    It saddens me to see seemingly intelligent people advocate what is blatant greed and corporate bullying simply because that is ‘the way things are now’.
    Workers rights are being eroded everywhere and your postal worker is currently on the front line and in the line of fire.
    A full time Postie has some paid sick pay, maybe 4 weeks paid holiday and earns approx 25k which is probably just enough for a family man to have a simple life; small mortgage, small car and 1 holiday a year, nothing too extravagant.
    This ought to be the bare minimum every full time worker should expect, how much more do our rapacious overseers want to steal from us!!

    • 2 years ago

      @Lee, there seems to be little thought for sellers, Royal Mail customers like myself and many others, who rely on RM for our business.

      Sue above seems to think that we sellers should support you in your hour of need, but what about our staff, our overheads, our mortgage, holiday and car?

      What do we do about them?

      Sellers are already being squeezed more and more by corporations like eBay & Amazon, how will the posties support us? She could not be bothered to respond, I guess because she realised how selfish she looked.

      By going on strike you are putting our businesses in jeopardy and people we employ could be laid off, lose wages due to your actions.

      However, we have a solution, we switch to another courier, we maintain our business and move on.

      You, in the meantime, fight to the bitter end, much like the miners did and when you return to works, as you will do, you will have cost RM millions in the short term.

      But at what cost to your future? Once I have swapped to a new courier contract and am happy what is the chance you will win me back? What is the potential loss to RM over the next 10 years?

      BTW. I recently sent out 15 parcels in one week as first class.

      1. You failed to deliver 5 of the items on time
      2. You failed to show any indication of 3 items being delivered.

      I rarely send out items 1st class for two reasons

      1. eBay buyers rarely upgrade to 1st class
      2. Amazon suspend me from offering 1st class due to poor performance by Royal Mail.

      After 30 days I will be allowed to offer 1st Class on Amazon again, but will be suspended shortly, after that, about two weeks, for poor delivery performance by Royal Mail.

      Maybe it is about time I changed to a new courier.

      We are not a big business, we spend about £45,000 with RM a year, multiply that by 100 small businesses and RM lose £4.5M (or more) a year that you will not get back. Even that is probably small change to RM but multiply it by a 1,000 unhappy business customers and it starts adding up.

      I do find it amusing that RM Posties come on here trying to moan to the people they are looking to hurt for their own gain.

  • John David
    2 years ago

    Royal Mail was pravitised in 2013. It use to be a service run by the State. It is now a business run by shareholders. How many of the practices of a state run enterprise has changed. None. CWU has the cheek to talk about bullying. The business is run by the union. They can go on strike if they like. The business is already struggling financially. If care is not taken it will go the way of other great British institutions and Amazon will acquire it for a pound

  • Mac
    2 years ago

    When royal mail next year reduce staffing due to reduced work will the posties want to strike again? When its probably going to be their actions that caused the reduced work in the first place?

    Us business owners don’t have a problem with royal mail company. We don’t have a problem with the management. We do have a problem with the staff trying to cost us money and, in some instances, cost us our livelihood.
    The staff, not the management, will be who we blame.

    You want to involve us in your action against our will. How much sympathy do you expect?
    By the way folks from what I am hearing elsewhere the competitors are pleased with the actions of the royal mail workers. Looking at increased business which helps secure their jobs.
    Hopefully they won’t be looking to take on any ex-RM staff any time soon.

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