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WSJ calls Amazon an out of control flea market

By Chris Dawson August 28, 2019 - 11:15 am

Last Friday, the Wall Street Journal accused Amazon of acting like a flea market, somewhat amusingly since a derogatory term for eBay for many years was ‘fleabay’. The premise is that once upon a time as a retailer Amazon was impeccable but fast forward to today Amazon have grown their third party marketplace so that over half of all products aren’t sold by Amazon and the Wall Street Journal suggest some products are sub par.

The Wall Street Journal Headline is ‘Amazon Has Ceded Control of Its Site. The Result: Thousands of Banned, Unsafe or Mislabeled Products’ and that’s a problem for Amazon. They equate Amazon to social media companies unable to stem the flow of fake news saying that Amazon are unable or unwilling to effectively police third-party sellers on its site

Amazon aren’t too happy with the flea market moniker, to such an extent that they’ve published a blog post to set out the steps they take to keep the marketplace safe and their ‘industry-leading safety and compliance program’.

Amazon say that just in the past year (2018) they invested over $400 million to protect the marketplace and their customers and built robust programs to ensure products offered are safe, compliant, and authentic and and continuously refine and improve, tools that prevent suspicious, unsafe, or non-compliant products from being listed.

New seller account vetting includes a number of verifications and uses proprietary machine learning technology that stops bad actors before they can register or list a single product in our store. All products offered on Amazon must comply with applicable laws and regulations, and our own policies. For example, they require toys to be tested to relevant safety standards.

“We provide a number of ways for regulatory agencies, industry organizations, brands, customers, and our customer service teams to report safety issues. When we receive these reports, we move quickly to protect customers, remove unsafe products from our store, and investigate. For example, if a customer reports a concern with a product, a customer service associate can instantly trigger an investigation. Additionally, because of our direct relationships with customers, we are able to trace and directly notify customers who purchased a particular product online and alert them to a potential safety issue—our systems are far more effective than other online and offline retailers and customers can feel confident they’ll have the information they need.”
– Amazon

The problem for many sellers is that there are a ton of cheap products available on Amazon with outstanding (but often probably fake) reviews and sometimes the tools are used against them. It’s not completely unheard of for a competitor to purchase a product just to open a complaint and get the seller’s listing shut down to remove the competition for themselves.

On any marketplace, there will always be a choice of shoddy goods as well as truly superb products. The truth is that some buyers are more than happy with cheap knock offs and even some who will happily knowingly buy flea market fakes so long as they know up front that the products are fakes. Amazon will need to increasingly spend time vetting their sellers and their products and it’s an almost impossible task for a few banned, unsafe or mislabelled products to slip through the net.

The real challenge for Amazon is how to take down the dross without catching genuine sellers and genuine products by mistake and this isn’t always easy. Perhaps the most notorious instance was the hoverboards which Amazon took drastic action on a few years back telling consumers to bin them at huge cost to the marketplace and sellers alike.

  • ifellow
    3 months ago

    Worse than a flea market.

  • 3 months ago

    Amazon fake products are beyond out of control. Fake products pop up overnight and instantly amass countless fake positive reviews. Amazon may be unhappy with the moniker, but they are unable to stop and prevent the spammers. I bought a pair of headphones, within a few months they broke. The knock off is still being sold for half the price.

    • ifellow
      3 months ago

      The problem is when the fakes are sold under the same listings as the real ones, that are FBA fulfilled or similar.

      In many cases the buyer paying a small difference in price hence assuming it isnt too underpriced to be fake, and still getting a fake

      Gutted !

  • 3 months ago

    i got my account suspended for no reason at all and i have the product manifactered in the uk so how does that work where there are dodgy sellers amzon shame on them so now my customers are forced to buy of me on ebay amazon are a joke

    • Jason
      3 months ago

      Amazon don’t suspended account for ‘no reason’, but equally they don’t usually tell you the reason.

      Post your suspension notice and more details to the amazon uk sellercentral forum for more advice on how to appeal.

  • Mac
    3 months ago

    Rare for amazon to suspend for no reason at all. And lost account over that?

    Multiple times have reported fakes to amazon. They are not interested at all.

    • Jason
      3 months ago

      Areyou the rights holder ? did you do a test buy ?

  • 3 months ago

    amazon are a joke sent me a email asking me to come back and then told me it5 was a mistake so i phoned them and told them how can you suspend somebody who is manifactering goods and the best part iws nobody else was selling them on amazon so i told them you want good sellers and you suspend them no wonder they are going to ebay

    • Jason
      3 months ago

      Without more information on the type of goods and why you were suspended nobody here can help you.

      Also you can’t call the team who deals with suspensions, at best you could get a generic seller support number who can’t help with suspensions.

  • 3 months ago

    I think no one can deny that there are problems on the platform. But Amazon is always on top of things. Sure there are fake reviewers and some scammers in FBA but they’re usually short-lived.

    It’s a little disappointing how an institution like WSJ is using such sensational terms.

  • Jack
    3 months ago

    I’ve reported numerous listings of prohibited items being sold in the category I trade in. When I raise a case from my seller account it just goes to “transferred” status and nothing ever happens to the listings. I’ve also tried reporting from my buyer account and nothing ever happens to the listings.

    I give them all the relevant info and spell out the exact reason why the item is prohibited as per their T+C’s. These would be extremely easy wins if they were really bothered about cleaning up the marketplace.

  • ifellow
    3 months ago

    Loads of foreign sellers not showing a VAT number just like a fleamarket, HMRC said it can never happen, How many sales have HMRC asked AMAZON to cover VAT for ?

    Let me guess 0 .

  • 3 months ago

    Double edged sword – get it right one way or another and you can get lots of sales and profit.

    But due to autonomous robotic decisions and dehumanised policing there are so many ways to fall victim to either a inaccurate AI bot or some blackhat tactic by a competitor.

    Interesting that over 50% of product is via 3PS, I wonder how many ‘Amazon customers’ are aware of this?

    On a monthly basis we speak to at least 1 or 2 customers who purchased from us but though that they were buying from Amazon.

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