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Stubhub boost in eBay UK tickets shake-up
eBay.co.uk will be making significant changes to its controversial tickets categories over the next few months that will mean changes for not just the buyers of event tickets but also sellers. The big winner will be StubHub, the US tickets company that eBay Inc. acquired in 2007 for a reported $310 million.
The changes will be phased in over the next six months or so with the first visible onsite differences coming in the next few weeks. But the eventual aim will be that all relevant ticket sales and purchases on eBay UK made in StubHub’s ‘strong’ categories of sport, music, theatre and festivals will have to be made via StubHub rather than eBay.
The first change you’ll notice (maybe as early as next week, but we have been advised that all timings we’ve been given are tentative) will be StubHub listings appearing in eBay search results. StubHub have provided us with a mock-up of how this will look.
When a buyer clicks on a link, they’ll then be taken directly to the StubHub site to complete the purchase.
It’s expected that eBay will retire the tickets categories altogether at some point by the middle of next year.
This is a sensible move from eBay which has often suffered criticism and negative press related to the controversy surrounding the ticketing secondary market. Notably, Bob Geldof and Harvey Goldsmith launched a scathing attack back in 2005 at the time of the Live 8 concert.
It also means that StubHub’s way of doing business with tickets will become the eBay norm. It’s purely a Buy it Now fixed price marketplace, so no more auctions.
StubHub also offer a marketplace purposefully honed to the sale of tickets. They offer a policy of “making it good” for customers if there is a problem. This means for sellers there will be no more worries about Top Seller rating, feedback or DSRs. StubHub guarantees all transactions between buyer and seller.
They also take away a lot of the grunt work. StubHub handles all the customer contacts and provides you with a shipping label. For sellers there are no more customer emails or dealing with other logistical issues.
Sellers also pay a single fee for sales and that includes PayPal costs. There’s no listing fee at all. Only a selling fee, which is currently a flat rate 25% of the sale price. It is understood that pricing is one topic under discussion for this launch, so watch this space. (The word on the street is that any new fees won’t be any higher than 25% and could be lower. I would also expect that StubHUb would also be willing to discuss merchant rates and special deals too in a way eBay doesn’t.)
It is also a new horizon for eBay and perhaps a sign of future developments. Removing categories so that items can be bought and sold in a tailored environment suited to the items in question is enlightened and is an approach that could be duplicated for other goods. We’ll keep you posted.
Current fees are 10% + PayPal fees
New fees are 25% including payment fees
I don’t know about it being a new horizon for ebay. Seems like tha same old ebay to me.
It all sounded great until I heard the 25% FVF. I think this will either push up the ticket price or push sellers to other venues.
ebay have lost the plot here with a 25% fee and no auctions. Xmas has come early for alternative ticket sellers.
I heard their top sellers as they call them(power sellers) only pay 15%, worth checking it out. A friend of mine has sold some beiber tix on there and said he got a good price and got paid straight after he sent the tickets. I’d pay 15 but not 25.
The 25% is the current fee and under review, as I understand it.
I suspect that StubHub would be willing to “have a conversation” for bigger sellers and special events.
Lets break up ebay and push all catagories into tailored environments and ramp up fees within these new tailored environments. The ebay future looks bright indeed!
25% for a fulfillment service seems pretty reasonable.
25% is reasonable from a 9% if your a TRS.
Have you started to drink the mulled wine already??
I am with you Whirly, for all the work and hassle and you only pay 25% and get paid straight away!!!
I would happily pay 25% right now to avoid all the twits messages on ebay this week.
Plus their are categories on Amazon that already charge 25% fees so it seems pretty reasonable to me.
All I can say is you are making far too much money if you are comfortable with fees of 25%!
Fees at that level would finish off a high number of ebay sellers.
Gary, I was talking as a middle aged Cornish man who might at some point in the future have a couple of spare tickets lying around, 25% for a no hassle sale serviced by a company I trust wouldn’t offend me.
That is a relief whirly! I had thought you were loosing it for a minute!
Agree with the pre-xmas “twits on ebay” comment also. Something to be said for taking the “puddleglums rest” approach.
As you and stuart say 25% sounds OK. As an eBay TA, and Consultant my TA fees are a lot higher.
But what would be interesting is to see what other ticket sellers both online and offline charge, and then compare the percentages.