Comments on: eBay sued for “discriminatory” registration system http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html eBay & ecommerce made easy Mon, 13 Feb 2012 05:33:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: g elliott http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57848 g elliott Fri, 02 Apr 2010 17:55:40 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57848 HI I cannot open an ebay account because I only have a mobile phone number They will only make calls to landline numbers Is this legal?? I live in England and am a registered voter at my home address which is the same address as my hnbank account Jo HI I cannot open an ebay account because I only have a mobile phone number They will only make calls to landline numbers Is this legal?? I live in England and am a registered voter at my home address which is the same address as my hnbank account Jo

]]> By: jimbo http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57803 jimbo Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:47:04 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57803 The odd thing is that "3rd world" nations usually tend to be very authoritarian. The idea that by restricting personal freedom a central government can create are more harmonious society has consistently been proved to be wrong - there has to be a balance. In the UK at the moment it seems like our society is being shaped by a clique whose guiding principle is personal reward and control. The odd thing is that “3rd world” nations usually tend to be very authoritarian.

The idea that by restricting personal freedom a central government can create are more harmonious society has consistently been proved to be wrong – there has to be a balance.

In the UK at the moment it seems like our society is being shaped by a clique whose guiding principle is personal reward and control.

]]> By: Lisa http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57801 Lisa Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:41:27 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57801 Well said ;-) Well said ;-)

]]> By: Lisa http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57754 Lisa Fri, 26 Mar 2010 21:56:41 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57754 You're right I was thinking of Columbus..the tea party stuff was much later. Neither here nor there though, what are you views? Do the Brits feel indignant when their rights are being violated by big business? You’re right I was thinking of Columbus..the tea party stuff was much later. Neither here nor there though, what are you views? Do the Brits feel indignant when their rights are being violated by big business?

]]> By: Bigpoppa http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57749 Bigpoppa Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:39:00 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57749 Anyone who thinks they live in a "free country" is sadly mistaken. The fact is you cannot say what you want, you cannot do what you want regardless of who or where you are. I (as a Brit) often think of them (Americans) as being very quick to say "I know my rights" or to take legal action over just "getting on with it" Society needs rules, regulations and control simply because the world is full of idiots, myself included at times. Without these controls being imposed on us, we would quickly become a 3rd world nation...IMO Anyone who thinks they live in a “free country” is sadly mistaken. The fact is you cannot say what you want, you cannot do what you want regardless of who or where you are.

I (as a Brit) often think of them (Americans) as being very quick to say “I know my rights” or to take legal action over just “getting on with it”

Society needs rules, regulations and control simply because the world is full of idiots, myself included at times. Without these controls being imposed on us, we would quickly become a 3rd world nation…IMO

]]> By: Sue Bailey http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57748 Sue Bailey Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:13:52 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57748 <em>Yes it was over 500 years ago</em> No, it wasn't. Yes it was over 500 years ago

No, it wasn’t.

]]> By: Lisa http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57745 Lisa Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:39:46 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57745 PS If anyone thinks I am trying to bait them into an argument let me stress, I am not. I am truly sincere in asking what are the perceptions of freedom and liberty by Brits compared to Americans. In my search I came across a fascinating article by "The Daily Bell". No idea who they are but this article is an eye-opener: http://thedailybell.com/901/Shrinking-Freedom-in-Britain.html I didn't know there was so much turmoil in so many areas happening "across the pond." Guns, healthcare, etc. Sorry I went off topic I am just in a curious mood. PS If anyone thinks I am trying to bait them into an argument let me stress, I am not. I am truly sincere in asking what are the perceptions of freedom and liberty by Brits compared to Americans.

In my search I came across a fascinating article by “The Daily Bell”. No idea who they are but this article is an eye-opener:

http://thedailybell.com/901/Shrinking-Freedom-in-Britain.html

I didn’t know there was so much turmoil in so many areas happening “across the pond.” Guns, healthcare, etc.

Sorry I went off topic I am just in a curious mood.

]]> By: Lisa http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57742 Lisa Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:05:54 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57742 I think what's at play here is, most on this forum are from the UK - but this plaintiff is American (as I am too). Some say we are very "sue happy" here in the US and there are a lot of people unhappy over it. Is it just me or are Americans more quick to sue if our rights have been violated? When you think about it, living in the US today, we are living among descendants of the rebels who said "screw the King I'm outta here, let's move to the new world." Yes it was over 500 years ago but I wonder if that's what makes Americans more indignant than Brits. Do you have similar laws in the UK to protect the disabled? I think what’s at play here is, most on this forum are from the UK – but this plaintiff is American (as I am too).

Some say we are very “sue happy” here in the US and there are a lot of people unhappy over it.

Is it just me or are Americans more quick to sue if our rights have been violated? When you think about it, living in the US today, we are living among descendants of the rebels who said “screw the King I’m outta here, let’s move to the new world.” Yes it was over 500 years ago but I wonder if that’s what makes Americans more indignant than Brits.

Do you have similar laws in the UK to protect the disabled?

]]> By: NinaB http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57726 NinaB Fri, 26 Mar 2010 02:07:28 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57726 First off, having a device that allows for texting is not the same thing as having a phone that accepts phone calls. The other thing to consider is that E-Bay would have had to spend a whopping $500 and used approximately 2 full employee hours to make accomodations that would serve the worldwide deaf community... :???: Piddling little for such a huge company don't you think? First off, having a device that allows for texting is not the same thing as having a phone that accepts phone calls.

The other thing to consider is that E-Bay would have had to spend a whopping $500 and used approximately 2 full employee hours to make accomodations that would serve the worldwide deaf community… :???:

Piddling little for such a huge company don’t you think?

]]> By: NinaB http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57724 NinaB Fri, 26 Mar 2010 02:02:26 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57724 Hey North, How far will you go? Umm is there a point where you say enough already? What if you give and give and give and then they still say its not enough. They would not even accept a third party number, why does a deaf person even have a land line anyway? Isn't that like requiring a blind person to own a TV... Hey North,
How far will you go? Umm is there a point where you say enough already? What if you give and give and give and then they still say its not enough. They would not even accept a third party number, why does a deaf person even have a land line anyway? Isn’t that like requiring a blind person to own a TV…

]]> By: NinaB http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57721 NinaB Fri, 26 Mar 2010 01:57:45 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57721 :shock: Of course, this is all good until you are the one with the disability then I suppose everyone needs to accomodate your needs, right? She bent over backwards to help them, help her. How far is a person supposed to, in all fairness, go? :shock:
Of course, this is all good until you are the one with the disability then I suppose everyone needs to accomodate your needs, right?

She bent over backwards to help them, help her. How far is a person supposed to, in all fairness, go?

]]> By: NinaB http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57720 NinaB Fri, 26 Mar 2010 01:54:14 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57720 :roll: Well Emily, It is a class action suit so Ms. Earll will in all likelihood make little if any money. So then you may ask why is she doing this? It may be a leap for you but, maybe she is doing this because it is the right thing to do. Why should a huge company be allowed to flout the law? Umm? Or should justice only be for the big corps and not the citizenry? :roll: Well Emily,
It is a class action suit so Ms. Earll will in all likelihood make little if any money. So then you may ask why is she doing this? It may be a leap for you but, maybe she is doing this because it is the right thing to do. Why should a huge company be allowed to flout the law? Umm? Or should justice only be for the big corps and not the citizenry?

]]> By: Debs http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57563 Debs Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:54:25 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57563 Yes, and in using ebay we have to abide by ebay rules. If ebay wants to stay in business, it has to abide by the law. There are several laws that I think are pants and frankly ridiculous, PC and a waste of time. But I have to live by them or face the consequences. I have no sympathy for ebay, partly due to there insistence on micro managing sellers. So I'm glad this woman is taking them to court and forcing them to obey the law of the land. Yes, and in using ebay we have to abide by ebay rules. If ebay wants to stay in business, it has to abide by the law.

There are several laws that I think are pants and frankly ridiculous, PC and a waste of time. But I have to live by them or face the consequences.

I have no sympathy for ebay, partly due to there insistence on micro managing sellers. So I’m glad this woman is taking them to court and forcing them to obey the law of the land.

]]> By: northumbrian http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57537 northumbrian Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:45:21 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57537 of course the disabled must be considered and helped, though business needs to be profitable and viable, at some point what is sensible and do able must come into the equation, or by the time you complie with the million regulations and laws, you may be just as disabled as the physical, but in a financial way ,if business suffers , who then would support the disabled with tax , employment and charity donations of course the disabled must be considered and helped, though business needs to be profitable and viable, at some point what is sensible and do able must come into the equation,
or by the time you complie with the million regulations and laws, you may be just as disabled as the physical, but in a financial way ,if business suffers , who then would support the disabled with tax , employment and charity donations

]]> By: hitch http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57533 hitch Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:10:20 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57533 The person is deaf and has a phone, someone must operate the phone on her behalf ?, if so they can verify it. It would be different if she did not have a phone, if this was the case then ebay should have some kind of alternative postal based system for registered disabled people The person is deaf and has a phone, someone must operate the phone on her behalf ?, if so they can verify it.

It would be different if she did not have a phone, if this was the case then ebay should have some kind of alternative postal based system for registered disabled people

]]> By: northumbrian http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57532 northumbrian Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:31:30 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57532 I though the point was to use ebay to sell I though the point was to use ebay to sell

]]> By: Debs http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57525 Debs Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:06:01 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57525 I think that point has become somewhat lost here. Is ebay breaking the law? That's really what it's all about. The court shall decide. I think that point has become somewhat lost here. Is ebay breaking the law? That’s really what it’s all about. The court shall decide.

]]> By: whirly http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57522 whirly Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:55:00 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57522 What a lovely attitude some people have towards others. We sold a bath to a deaf chap a couple of months back, when it came to delivery the office had to text the guy to let him know that the lorry had left and text him again when the driver was 10 minutes away, no doubt the guy had family and friends who could have taken the call for him, but perhaps though he actually prefers to be independent and not rely on others. What a lovely attitude some people have towards others.

We sold a bath to a deaf chap a couple of months back, when it came to delivery the office had to text the guy to let him know that the lorry had left and text him again when the driver was 10 minutes away, no doubt the guy had family and friends who could have taken the call for him, but perhaps though he actually prefers to be independent and not rely on others.

]]> By: northumbrian http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57520 northumbrian Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:42:26 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57520 triple standards chum if it gets things sold triple standards chum if it gets things sold

]]> By: Bigpoppa http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57517 Bigpoppa Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:21:45 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57517 Done some painting today, I couldn't get the damn lid off the tin! i called Dulux and they told me to ask someone else to do it for me, I did and the room looks great now. Perhaps I should have dug my heels in and insisted that they come up with some new kind of paint tin to solve the problem for people like me. ;-) Done some painting today, I couldn’t get the damn lid off the tin! i called Dulux and they told me to ask someone else to do it for me, I did and the room looks great now.

Perhaps I should have dug my heels in and insisted that they come up with some new kind of paint tin to solve the problem for people like me. ;-)

]]> By: Tim http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57516 Tim Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:03:12 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57516 northumbrian, apperantly you have a double standard here. You say, "what ever happened to the ethos of just doing the job,getting on with it and making the best of things". Exactly. Why didn't eBay just do its job and help this customer with a system problem? Apparently though, in your world, only one party has to 'do the job' - and it is not eBay. northumbrian, apperantly you have a double standard here. You say, “what ever happened to the ethos of just doing the job,getting on with it and making the best of things”. Exactly. Why didn’t eBay just do its job and help this customer with a system problem? Apparently though, in your world, only one party has to ‘do the job’ – and it is not eBay.

]]> By: Steve Antony Williams http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57514 Steve Antony Williams Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:07:55 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57514 It is kind of disgusting in this case but: A) eBay could have accommodated this woman's problem and blatantly chose not to. B) Anything that gives eBay grief is good in my book :twisted: It is kind of disgusting in this case but:

A) eBay could have accommodated this woman’s problem and blatantly chose not to.

B) Anything that gives eBay grief is good in my book :twisted:

]]> By: northumbrian http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57512 northumbrian Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:32:47 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57512 I dont realy care if my example fails, the worlds gone mad ,and ebays not the evil empire, what ever happened to the ethos of just doing the job,getting on with it and making the best of things, rather than looking for a whipping boy I dont realy care if my example fails,
the worlds gone mad ,and ebays not the evil empire,
what ever happened to the ethos of just doing the job,getting on with it and making the best of things, rather than looking for a whipping boy

]]> By: JD http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57511 JD Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:09:27 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57511 Surely the nuts and bolts of this stem from an endemic arrogance that epitomises eBay in a number of areas. In short a management failure. Surely the nuts and bolts of this stem from an endemic arrogance that epitomises eBay in a number of areas.

In short a management failure.

]]> By: JD http://tamebay.com/2010/03/ebay-sued-for-discriminatory-registration-system.html#comment-57510 JD Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:01:00 +0000 http://tamebay.com/?p=11741#comment-57510 eBay at its classic best: .... On June 24, 2008, Plaintiff received a seemingly automated response to her email from Randy S. at eBay Customer Support. The response did not in any way relate to the voice verification process or her request to have the block on her account removed. The response referred to a “page not responding error.” .... eBay at its classic best:

…. On June 24, 2008, Plaintiff received a seemingly automated response to her email from Randy S. at eBay Customer Support. The response did not in any way relate to the voice verification process or her request to have the block on her account removed. The response referred to a “page not responding error.” ….

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