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	<title>Comments on: Baby goods shop shut down by bully boy brands</title>
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		<title>By: ebuyerfb</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2009/12/baby-goods-shop-shut-down-by-bully-boy-brands.html#comment-24264</link>
		<dc:creator>ebuyerfb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 06:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
And its true: you can’t offer any decent pre sales or after sales service with wafer thin margins, which can effect the whole “buyer experience” and brand image.
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Buyers can get around that issue by just asking the more expensive sellers.  I lost track of how much time I&#039;ve wasted over the years supporting buyers that just go to the cheapest one on eBay instead of me.

Some even have the nerve to ask post sales (not my sale) questions as well. :evil:</description>
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And its true: you can’t offer any decent pre sales or after sales service with wafer thin margins, which can effect the whole “buyer experience” and brand image.
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<p>Buyers can get around that issue by just asking the more expensive sellers.  I lost track of how much time I&#8217;ve wasted over the years supporting buyers that just go to the cheapest one on eBay instead of me.</p>
<p>Some even have the nerve to ask post sales (not my sale) questions as well. <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif' alt=':evil:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rachael White</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2009/12/baby-goods-shop-shut-down-by-bully-boy-brands.html#comment-24263</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachael White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its not just on line sellers that are doing this, we have a few lines that are sold at the same price in a couple of high street stores as we can get trade direct from the manufacturer.  Obviously the qtys purchased are different, and I am not suggesting that we pay the same as the multiple retailer (although it would be nice  ;-)  - this retailer markets it as XX off RRP ...so we dont stock these lines, the manufacturer tried to sell us a new line at £49.99 + vat...in high street on promotion for xmas at £49.99...I might as well join the queue and buy it on the high street.

The manufactuers need to be careful with the larger retailers as well, as they drop prices etc at a whim...and if the manufacturers dont dance they drop them..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its not just on line sellers that are doing this, we have a few lines that are sold at the same price in a couple of high street stores as we can get trade direct from the manufacturer.  Obviously the qtys purchased are different, and I am not suggesting that we pay the same as the multiple retailer (although it would be nice  <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   &#8211; this retailer markets it as XX off RRP &#8230;so we dont stock these lines, the manufacturer tried to sell us a new line at £49.99 + vat&#8230;in high street on promotion for xmas at £49.99&#8230;I might as well join the queue and buy it on the high street.</p>
<p>The manufactuers need to be careful with the larger retailers as well, as they drop prices etc at a whim&#8230;and if the manufacturers dont dance they drop them..</p>
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		<title>By: curtains curtains</title>
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		<dc:creator>curtains curtains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok same thing happens to us, but I think the idea is to rebrand yourself in the marketplaces so noone knows who you are. (unless they check with severe scrutiny)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok same thing happens to us, but I think the idea is to rebrand yourself in the marketplaces so noone knows who you are. (unless they check with severe scrutiny)</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry007</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2009/12/baby-goods-shop-shut-down-by-bully-boy-brands.html#comment-24261</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerry007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many many years ago (in my 20&#039;s... :cry: ), in my 1st ever business, the MD of one of my suppliers said to me;

&quot; THATS THE TROUBLE WITH LOSS LEADERS, YOU SELL TO MANY OF THEM &quot;

That&#039;s something I&#039;ve always remembered... :grin:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many many years ago (in my 20&#8242;s&#8230; <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif' alt=':cry:' class='wp-smiley' />  ), in my 1st ever business, the MD of one of my suppliers said to me;</p>
<p>&#8221; THATS THE TROUBLE WITH LOSS LEADERS, YOU SELL TO MANY OF THEM &#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s something I&#8217;ve always remembered&#8230; <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':grin:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Debs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like a bargain, but I think manufacturers should, and have every right to, stop selling to vendors who deep discount their brand.

And its true: you can&#039;t offer any decent pre sales or after sales service with wafer thin margins, which can effect the whole &quot;buyer experience&quot; and brand image.  I know it sounds like an excuse (and cliched) but it&#039;s true.

More often than not when you get a real bargain, any after or pre sales help you may seek is poor or non existent.  Think of a well known Irish airline that is frequently castigated in the press.

I&#039;ll seek out a bargain all right, but where quality and/or service is important to me I expect to pay more, and do pay more.

I&#039;m no lawyer, but I think you&#039;ll find that 2) isn&#039;t illegal.  The supplier is not saying &#039;sell at this price&#039; but is cutting off supplies to the vendor or else making it unavailable to him.

Unless under contract, I think they are within their rights to do this, even if the true reasons is to get the vendor to sell at a price that is realistic and - as someone else said - sustainable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like a bargain, but I think manufacturers should, and have every right to, stop selling to vendors who deep discount their brand.</p>
<p>And its true: you can&#8217;t offer any decent pre sales or after sales service with wafer thin margins, which can effect the whole &#8220;buyer experience&#8221; and brand image.  I know it sounds like an excuse (and cliched) but it&#8217;s true.</p>
<p>More often than not when you get a real bargain, any after or pre sales help you may seek is poor or non existent.  Think of a well known Irish airline that is frequently castigated in the press.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll seek out a bargain all right, but where quality and/or service is important to me I expect to pay more, and do pay more.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no lawyer, but I think you&#8217;ll find that 2) isn&#8217;t illegal.  The supplier is not saying &#8216;sell at this price&#8217; but is cutting off supplies to the vendor or else making it unavailable to him.</p>
<p>Unless under contract, I think they are within their rights to do this, even if the true reasons is to get the vendor to sell at a price that is realistic and &#8211; as someone else said &#8211; sustainable.</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry do you mean Diamond Sellers? I personally think your right Ebay could not care about anyone but making as much money and putting the small sellers out of business!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry do you mean Diamond Sellers? I personally think your right Ebay could not care about anyone but making as much money and putting the small sellers out of business!</p>
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		<title>By: Lino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the issue here is that it&#039;s so easy to set up a shop on eBay, undercut all the competition, trash the market, and then disappear 2 years later realising you made no money after VAT and fees etc.

Any idiot can set up an eBay store and undercut the competition. These sellers aren&#039;t the future for the manufacturers, so I don&#039;t blame them for cutting off their supply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the issue here is that it&#8217;s so easy to set up a shop on eBay, undercut all the competition, trash the market, and then disappear 2 years later realising you made no money after VAT and fees etc.</p>
<p>Any idiot can set up an eBay store and undercut the competition. These sellers aren&#8217;t the future for the manufacturers, so I don&#8217;t blame them for cutting off their supply.</p>
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		<title>By: Bigpoppa</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2009/12/baby-goods-shop-shut-down-by-bully-boy-brands.html#comment-24257</link>
		<dc:creator>Bigpoppa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems there are two issues here:

1)Should sellers should be pricing there stock so as to make a profit.

2)Should suppliers be able to fix prices by using tactics other than simply saying &quot;sell at this price&quot;

For me the answer is:

1)Yes

2)No (it&#039;s illegal)

The old saying &quot;cake and eat it&quot; comes to mind here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems there are two issues here:</p>
<p>1)Should sellers should be pricing there stock so as to make a profit.</p>
<p>2)Should suppliers be able to fix prices by using tactics other than simply saying &#8220;sell at this price&#8221;</p>
<p>For me the answer is:</p>
<p>1)Yes</p>
<p>2)No (it&#8217;s illegal)</p>
<p>The old saying &#8220;cake and eat it&#8221; comes to mind here.</p>
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		<title>By: Bigpoppa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bigpoppa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah...and we didn&#039;t land on the moon either... :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230;and we didn&#8217;t land on the moon either&#8230; <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: About Time</title>
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		<dc:creator>About Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you tried to take me to court for alledged price fixing I&#039;d pop a cap in your ass.  :mrgreen:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you tried to take me to court for alledged price fixing I&#8217;d pop a cap in your ass.  <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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