[Updated] CWU and RM agree draft deal – postal strikes cancelled
5/11/2009 at 13:28
Sky News is reporting that the postal workers’ union and Royal Mail have agreed a draft deal that may lead to tomorrow’s strike being cancelled. The CWU’s executive committee will still have to approve the deal. It’s expected that there will be more on this today, so I’ll update this post as we get news.
Update 13:34 BBC has the same story.
Update 13:45 Also in the Mail: all still “could” resolve the current dispute and no comment from either side.
Update 17:18 Sky News says strikes called off for tomorrow and Monday; no further details at the moment.
Update 17:38 Sky now saying strikes definitely called off; statement expected from CWU later.
Update 17:42 BBC says strikes called off until “at least the New Year” but “unlikely that an agreement has been reached to resolve the wider dispute over job cuts, pay and working conditions”. Statements expected from CWU and RM management later.
Update 18:33 CWU have issued a statement saying that tomorrow’s and Monday’s strikes are off. RM and CWU have reached an interim agreement which provides “a period of calm for the CWU and Royal Mail to reach a full and final agreement [and] guarantees that modernisation will be introduced with agreed job security and improved terms and conditions for postal workers.” Details of the agreement are embargoed until midday tomorrow.
Update 18.38 PA report that legal action by CWU against RM for employing temporary workers as strike cover has been dropped.
Update 18:54 Statement from Royal Mail announces that mail services will operate as normal tomorrow and Monday.
And as a taller woman than me says, that’s a full lid.






Chris Dawson says
1:53 pm on 05/11/2009
So the big question is will everyone that’s been using alternative carriers switch everything back to Royal Mail next week?
Jimbo says
2:16 pm on November 5th, 2009
It will be down to price & reliability so I would imagine some would switch back. I also imagine that many who talked about switching didn’t really switch.
The biggest damage would be business to business were the competition can compete on price & reliability.
PS: hope we’re not counting our chickens….
Andy says
4:48 pm on November 5th, 2009
No.
northumbrian says
2:35 pm on 05/11/2009
even if the strike is not called off
its all been over hyped
we have not been effected at all
other than the strike gives you a great excuse to be lazy with dispatch
Andy says
7:52 pm on November 5th, 2009
North, how does your mail get to you without going through any mail centres that have had strike action going on? Do they just magic themselves to your local sorting office?
northumbrian says
9:04 pm on November 5th, 2009
this is Scotland we do magic naturally
Andy says
9:30 pm on November 5th, 2009
stuart says
3:08 pm on 05/11/2009
Well we have a bit few things not turned up and some delays but fingers crossed ok.
Royal mail have lost from us Special delivery due to a better price from interlink and also some packets and parcels have gone to them as well as anything we send recorded to.
Good news if is sorted!
Stuart
Gill says
5:16 pm on 05/11/2009
Sky News is now reporting that the strikes have been called off – too late for my collection today, but at least I can post tomorrow
In answer to your question, Chris – RM is the only feasible option for most of my large letter items, so yes from me.
SimonL says
5:34 pm on 05/11/2009
The post mistress at our local post office, did say to me this afternoon, that quite a bit of pressure has been put on the CWU, as the workers are losing out as they had been expecting to be clearing a far larger backlog
Kevin A says
7:00 pm on 05/11/2009
Mind you, good news that it is. It seems it is an interim agreement until xmas is over. Let’s hope that come the new year they don’t start it all up again
Lynne says
7:01 pm on 05/11/2009
My grumpy postman was even more miserable than usual this lunchtime.. maybe he had been warned they would be calling off the strikes.
Bryn says
7:17 pm on 05/11/2009
Selling DVDs where most of our items cost 50p to send we have no alternative so we will continue to use Royal Mail
Bryn
Happy Days says
7:46 pm on November 5th, 2009
How can you post a dvd for just 50 pence?
Andy says
7:50 pm on November 5th, 2009
Large Letter with Royal Mail.
Happy Days says
8:22 pm on 05/11/2009
Am I to assume then that your dvds are housed in cardboard sleeves, because when I send dvd’s in jiffy bags the cheapest postal price is 76 pence
Andy says
9:32 pm on November 5th, 2009
I assume then that you don’t use PPI. If you did you’d be paying from 44p.
Happy Days says
6:41 am on November 6th, 2009
Thanks for the heads up Andy
Looks like I might have been throwing money away.
Still a bit confused as to how PPI works, but I’m going to dig around. I think you might have saved me some serious cash – so thank you
PS – If anybody could help me out with an explanation or good web link I’d appreciate it
Bunchy says
8:50 am on November 6th, 2009
Go to RoyalMail.com and find the business helpline, they will talk you through.
Basically you open an account. Sort your mail into large letter / letter / packet according to size and weight. Weigh each grouping and divide by howevermany you have in that group. The charging is done on an average weight not on individual weights like you have to do at post office counter / stamps / franking.
If you have enough sub 100g items to counterbalance your over 100g items the savings are enormous. Plus you get charged a lower rate than stamps as you are sending in bulk.
Good luck
Simon says
9:24 am on November 6th, 2009
Also, spending the extra £500 (it just went up…) a year to get your mail collected saves a whole bunch of time too. Basically, for about 2 quid a day, I save myself a valuable 30-45 mins every day, petrol costs and hassle. Best £500 I’ve spent.
Even better, they do it for free if you spend more than £15k a year with them.
Gill says
10:04 am on November 6th, 2009
Agree PPI is the bees knees, if most of your items are best suited to RM, I also agree with Simon that paying for a collection is very cost / time effective for a couple of quid a day.
If you are an eBay PS, you can search the PS board for all sorts of previous discussions / hint & tips about how best to optimise PPI.
I’m not a PS any more (yay!), so can’t search any out for you.
Happy Days says
11:42 am on 06/11/2009
Thanks Guys, I called RM this morning and talking PPI through with them. Never realised the savings I could make.
Thank you all and thank you Tamebay for providing a forum where sellers can help each other out.
On this occasion a bunch of contributors have given me some really useful advice which is going to save me several hundred pounds over a year.
Thanks Guys
PS – Chris & Sue
I have learnt a very valuable lesson here, would make a great subject for a feature
Gill says
11:57 am on November 6th, 2009
Just remembered one of the eBay PS did some very useful guides on PPI / Packetpost – well worth a look
http://search.reviews.ebay.co.uk/members/canterburycross_W0QQuqtZg
Bunchy says
8:48 pm on November 6th, 2009
I was trying to remember the id Gill, I know the postings by name “CC” and couldn’t remember what went inbetween
Gill says
10:33 pm on November 6th, 2009
Andy says
7:34 am on November 7th, 2009
Glad you’re on the way.
The average weight is the biggest potential saver. We sell items that weigh very little with very low margins but for each one of those we sell which weigh 42g packaged we can send another 7 at 108g (which are our best selling line) which saves 7 x 27p = £1.89 for each one small item sold. So the item selling for around £1.50 has a much bigger margin in real terms.
So our posting cost for the 108g item is 112.2p while the same package at the PO is £1.62 – almost 50p difference. If you’re sending a reasonable amount and making good savings they will pay for the collection in no time.
PPI is the best thing we ever did as a savings exercise in our business.