This statement by eBay is not true. eBay attempted to verify rights owners in 2000 but soon stopped. eBay is a collective of legal and moral cowards when it comes to VeRO. A simple statement that one owns the rights claimed is all that is required.

eBay can require the VeRO member respond within a certain time period but does not. eBay can require that the VeRO member give exact reasons for the takedowns but eBay does not. eBay could have an appeals process whereby the seller could argue their case to eBay and make the VeRO member more accountable but ebay does not.

The statement that eBay does not “generally enforce third party contracts like exclusivity agreements” is another lie by eBay. eBay doesn’t care who orders the takedown as long as eBay is legally protected by paperwork where the VeRO member states they own the rights. This sort of abuse happens every day and rarely does eBay get involved. eBay’s automated response system allows eBay to avoid getting involved.

eBay has gotten so big that eBay doesn’t know what it is doing half the time and the other half of the time it doesn’t care.

Again you’re talking rubbish, these shirts were selling for $18 and that is a fair price for a shirt which was originally bough for $4 in the shop in question.

Prices were not ridiculous – they were fair for a decent product and the profit on the shirts was at least $8 after ebay & paypal fees – that is not pricing people out of selling, wake up and stop telling people off like they/we were doing something wrong…

This new ‘rights holder’ is going to dominate the market with their own prices – is that healthy??

I suspect #33 was written by the person who took this disgraceful action in the first place, or possibly the shop?…

thats exactly the problem…you people dont care if the price gets dumped again and again, and thats why you will not be able to sell that brand anymore.
You People destroyed the marketprice for that products, and people who import the articles into their countrys are not able to sell them anymore for a reasonable price because they need to pay taxes, import duty and so on…you are acting selfish and just really stupid if you sell that shirts for 12-16 Dollars include shipping! That sucks and it was time that something happen against it to protect the brand and the sellers from other countrys from more demage! Go to school and learn something about economy and marketing if you dont understand that…

Try to buy products from another big clothing brand in the US, for example Ed H. and then try to sell them abroad on ebay…you will not be able to do that because they have in every country importers with a license to distribute them there exclusively…they will remove your listings as well because the articles are not licensed to be sold there..never heard about that?? Thats how it works and its necessary to do it that way to protect the sellers in the specific countrys from people like you who dump the price and dont care about other peoples businesses …a good organized distribution can only work that way and will not work if everybody can buy that articles for the same cheap wholesale price and sell them everywhere for a dumping price …

My complaint is that I’ve seen this document and despite the new ‘rights holder’ saying it is a legal document, I can’t help feel that it is not, it is simply a knock-up of a document, it has a silly red wax seal picture on it and it claims ‘with this exclusive distribution license for ebay worldwide you get the right to sell XXXX(product name) products. The licensee has the right to advertise, present & sell XXXX with own name & bill.
The distribution license is valid for 5 years and has to be renewed afterwards’

Now, to me, that is pathetic, eBay have seen this document and removed listings, closed accounts & ruined peoples livelihoods in the process.

There are no excuses for what ebay has done, and possibly none for the manufacturer too.

I have given up fighting this and put it down to losing another source of income.

Someone, up high in the manufacturers, must know all & where their buyers sell. They MUST have known what they were signing & who they would effect.
It is they, the manufactuers, who should be in touch, sorting it out with ebay Vero. All the shouting by the previous disgruntled sellers (sorry guys, no badness intended) will get no one, anywhere.

Regretfully also, the up & coming legal action, will again unfortunately drag on forever (as these things do). You would be surprized how many appeals go on & on & on…….

Maybe the effected sellers, should band together & sue the Manufacturer for the profits they are loosing….&, I don’t often stand up for ebay, but afer the recent cases, they are treadfing carefully.

As for the recent petition, sent around by ebay……….Sorry ebay, it’s in the delete folder, If ebay want to encourage the big boys, that’s fine, but you cannot have it both ways. It is upto ebay (as the selling platform) to make certain what can & what cannot be sold on their site.
If ebay expect the small seller, to sell on the site, then they should deal with the big boys on our behalf, but of course they cannot, can they, as they are encourging he big boys to come & play on the site (with links, etc),
but if you sell one of their branded products, they slap a vero notice on you………..

Recession: this is probaly the reason DVD/CD sellers are going up the wall….after all, these are the things that people impulse buy…Now people are looking in their pockets & the extra tenner is not there.
Mind you, Downloads, Amazon & the demise of woolworhs (middle man operation) has cut the prices & thus, should cu the prices in shops.

Having been in furniture design in the past, it is really horrible, when a competetor copies your iems (a least some do make ‘differences’). If a company has spent 100,000ssss££££££ on developmen, them it’s fair that they have sole rights to he item (at least for the copyrigh period).

Sorry so we take all risks (accetable being self employed) though now ebay are insane they truly wat there cake and eat it.

I can onlt think i have option to leave ebay, i often you all say anyone with only 1 selling source are mad.
Thats me and daul personaly too
so sorry for name thing i am becoming paroind
thanks for replying BTW you saying ebay were being a useless as ever re petition?
AGAIN IM SORRY FOR ANY CONFUSION RE NAME AND THANKS SO MUCH FOR REPLYING.

To confirm can people who buy from authrised sell off channels etc sell on ebay with ebay, sorry vero saying stop?
best wishes
sam david

But it is easy to blame ebay first and the seller second.

http://www.sellerdome.com

I will keep my opinions to myself in the future but you actually have the power to change the way ebay does business and treats sellers…still love the site and carry on just though i add my 2p

Sorry to be off topic: Also, yes there are many sellers pretending to be private and avoiding fees and then close down and open up again, one such seller is maxtoptech
named & shamed….

Previously this seller had been NARU under another ID…

Us sellers WERE sourcing the products from the IP owner in S.E Asia

It is still uncertain who is in the wrong here, the original creator/shop or the new (ebay) rights holder, this will hopefully be decided in due course.

I think in this case the company should have simply stopped selling to you and gave you the oportunity to sell your existing stock… sorry again for the missunderstanding..good luck

‘ebay is a tiny part of business and mostly for the big brands its a nightmare because most sellers are just unprofessional and this case proofs it’

This case is worth highlighting just the same as any other unjustified case is worth highlighting.

I am directly affected by this case and I have been buying directly from the creator, producer & original IP rights holder of the product in question.

The IP rights that have been taken away are for sale of the product ON EBAY ONLY

This is not an article about well-known jeans/trainers/hoodies/shorts or whatever, it is about a genuine problem which needs to be better thought out by ebay before they close accounts of unwitting & honest sellers.