Comments on: Court tells L’Oreal: eBay isn’t responsible for fakes http://tamebay.com/2009/05/court-tells-l%e2%80%99oreal-ebay-isnt-responsible-for-fakes.html eBay & ecommerce made easy Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:01:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: board_surfer http://tamebay.com/2009/05/court-tells-l%e2%80%99oreal-ebay-isnt-responsible-for-fakes.html#comment-47679 board_surfer Thu, 14 May 2009 18:06:07 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=7102#comment-47679 I told you I needed a new calculator! I told you I needed a new calculator!

]]> By: Eddie http://tamebay.com/2009/05/court-tells-l%e2%80%99oreal-ebay-isnt-responsible-for-fakes.html#comment-47672 Eddie Thu, 14 May 2009 10:49:27 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=7102#comment-47672 BS - 1% of 10,000,000 (10 million) is 100,000 (one hundred thousand) not 10,000 (ten thousand) :-) Which means of course, as a guesstimate, that there are 100,000 fakes on eBay.co.uk BS – 1% of 10,000,000 (10 million) is 100,000 (one hundred thousand) not 10,000 (ten thousand) :-)

Which means of course, as a guesstimate, that there are 100,000 fakes on eBay.co.uk

]]> By: board_surfer http://tamebay.com/2009/05/court-tells-l%e2%80%99oreal-ebay-isnt-responsible-for-fakes.html#comment-47671 board_surfer Thu, 14 May 2009 10:17:41 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=7102#comment-47671 10,0000 ??? maybe you should leave the making up numbers to ebay...lol I have a hatred for %ages and stats, funny richard choose to say 99% were genuine and not sorry we still have @ 10,000 fakes listed. I love ebay even though some days I think it hates me...lol 10,0000 ???

maybe you should leave the making up numbers to ebay…lol

I have a hatred for %ages and stats, funny richard choose to say 99% were genuine and not sorry we still have @ 10,000 fakes listed.

I love ebay even though some days I think it hates me…lol

]]> By: Chris Dawson http://tamebay.com/2009/05/court-tells-l%e2%80%99oreal-ebay-isnt-responsible-for-fakes.html#comment-47669 Chris Dawson Thu, 14 May 2009 09:34:19 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=7102#comment-47669 #5 Well let's put it this way..... they don't have any product to sell and the French courts have confirmed that they're merely a venue (aka Internet Hosting Provider). Not much left to discuss on that topic..... ....unless you meant to ask how much should an Internet Hosting Provider stick their noses into how their hosted clients conduct their businesses ;-) #5 Well let’s put it this way….. they don’t have any product to sell and the French courts have confirmed that they’re merely a venue (aka Internet Hosting Provider). Not much left to discuss on that topic…..

….unless you meant to ask how much should an Internet Hosting Provider stick their noses into how their hosted clients conduct their businesses ;-)

]]> By: Mark T http://tamebay.com/2009/05/court-tells-l%e2%80%99oreal-ebay-isnt-responsible-for-fakes.html#comment-47667 Mark T Thu, 14 May 2009 09:14:23 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=7102#comment-47667 Hey, maybe you could do a post on whether Ebay is "merely" a venue anymore Chris? At some point or other. It would be interesting to hear peoples views on the subject. Mark Hey, maybe you could do a post on whether Ebay is “merely” a venue anymore Chris?

At some point or other.

It would be interesting to hear peoples views on the subject.

Mark

]]> By: Chris Dawson http://tamebay.com/2009/05/court-tells-l%e2%80%99oreal-ebay-isnt-responsible-for-fakes.html#comment-47664 Chris Dawson Wed, 13 May 2009 23:52:05 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=7102#comment-47664 Give em a break BS, there are only about 10,000,000 listings on eBay UK so 1% means there are no more than 10,0000 non-genuine products..... actually that's still quite a lot :-D Wonder if it includes the ones VeRO partners take down saying they're dodgy when they're not? I'm guessing that eBay distinguish between fraudulent as in "looking to rip you off" and counterfeit as in "loads of buyers are more than happy to buy a fake so long as they know that's what they're getting". Give em a break BS, there are only about 10,000,000 listings on eBay UK so 1% means there are no more than 10,0000 non-genuine products….. actually that’s still quite a lot :-D Wonder if it includes the ones VeRO partners take down saying they’re dodgy when they’re not?

I’m guessing that eBay distinguish between fraudulent as in “looking to rip you off” and counterfeit as in “loads of buyers are more than happy to buy a fake so long as they know that’s what they’re getting”.

]]> By: board_surfer http://tamebay.com/2009/05/court-tells-l%e2%80%99oreal-ebay-isnt-responsible-for-fakes.html#comment-47663 board_surfer Wed, 13 May 2009 23:15:00 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=7102#comment-47663 "Today, 99% of all items listed on eBay are genuine products " sounds rather good doesnt it? until you remember they used to trot out " only 0.001% of listings are fraudulent" or maybe I just need a new calculator? “Today, 99% of all items listed on eBay are genuine products ”

sounds rather good doesnt it?

until you remember they used to trot out ” only 0.001% of listings are fraudulent”

or maybe I just need a new calculator?

]]> By: EventHorizon1984 http://tamebay.com/2009/05/court-tells-l%e2%80%99oreal-ebay-isnt-responsible-for-fakes.html#comment-47662 EventHorizon1984 Wed, 13 May 2009 22:37:12 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=7102#comment-47662 > Or does it? eBay's soon to be updated User Agreement will remove the 'only a venue' defense. * For covered claims that meet the conditions and are not excluded, buyers are required to destroy an item if they claim it is not authentic. Once a buyer confirms destruction of the item, eBay will reimburse the buyer. * For covered claims that meet the conditions and are not excluded, sellers agree to not hold buyers or eBay responsible for the destruction of an item if it is not believed to be authentic. In California (U.S.) that's covered under "California Criminal Law, Crimes Against Property", as the "item" does not belong to eBay. i.e. Person E who doesn't have title to a car, tells Person B to use a sledgehammer on a car Person B just bought. Then Person E gives Person B money, and turns around and takes the same amount of money from the seller and original owner of the car (Person C). In real life, who's ultimately out money, and who goes to jail? "Let me get this straight. You WANT me to steal?" Alexander Mundy, It Takes A Thief > Or does it?

eBay’s soon to be updated User Agreement will remove the ‘only a venue’ defense.

* For covered claims that meet the conditions and are not excluded, buyers are required to destroy an item if they claim it is not authentic. Once a buyer confirms destruction of the item, eBay will reimburse the buyer.
* For covered claims that meet the conditions and are not excluded, sellers agree to not hold buyers or eBay responsible for the destruction of an item if it is not believed to be authentic.

In California (U.S.) that’s covered under “California Criminal Law, Crimes Against Property”, as the “item” does not belong to eBay.

i.e. Person E who doesn’t have title to a car, tells Person B to use a sledgehammer on a car Person B just bought. Then Person E gives Person B money, and turns around and takes the same amount of money from the seller and original owner of the car (Person C). In real life, who’s ultimately out money, and who goes to jail?

“Let me get this straight. You WANT me to steal?”
Alexander Mundy, It Takes A Thief

]]> By: Mark T http://tamebay.com/2009/05/court-tells-l%e2%80%99oreal-ebay-isnt-responsible-for-fakes.html#comment-47656 Mark T Wed, 13 May 2009 17:05:46 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=7102#comment-47656 Internet hosting provider? Hmmm.... I think the amount of involvement Ebay are engaging in at the selling end of the process, makes them a bit more than that maybe? Or does it? Internet hosting provider?

Hmmm….

I think the amount of involvement Ebay are engaging in at the selling end of the process, makes them a bit more than that maybe?

Or does it?

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