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	<title>Comments on: Project Echo Beta launches Selling Manager Service</title>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2009/04/project-echo-beta-launches-selling-manager-service.html#comment-17704</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am really starting to lose faith in Frooition and their support and associated fees. Has anyone read their Support Centre text?

Personally, I&#039;m having serious second thoughts about continuing to endorse them (and there&#039;s a slight irony in that, too).

I agree with &quot;SavvyPaul&quot;, above. Good post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really starting to lose faith in Frooition and their support and associated fees. Has anyone read their Support Centre text?</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m having serious second thoughts about continuing to endorse them (and there&#8217;s a slight irony in that, too).</p>
<p>I agree with &#8220;SavvyPaul&#8221;, above. Good post.</p>
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		<title>By: eSellerPro</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2009/04/project-echo-beta-launches-selling-manager-service.html#comment-17703</link>
		<dc:creator>eSellerPro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James Stewart on April 2nd, 2009 9:55 pm If you want to see eBay Shop design which works - you only have to look at eSellerPro’s design. Check out http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/XS-Stock-Online. Frooition promised so much but unfortunately delivered so little and at additional cost.

Chris Dawson on April 2nd, 2009 10:21 pm #12 Unfortunately I think you’ll find that store breaks the new eBay rules

Hi Chris, Our solution was approved by eBay in advance of the changes applied on January 8th and all client sites including the above mentioned site have been upgraded to meet NSE rules by eBay.  We were notified along with other solution providers back in October of last year and our new solution has been signed of by eBay.  In the interest of thoroughness if there is anything in particular you feel is in breach of eBay rules I would apprecaite you getting in touch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James Stewart on April 2nd, 2009 9:55 pm If you want to see eBay Shop design which works &#8211; you only have to look at eSellerPro’s design. Check out <a href="http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/XS-Stock-Online" rel="nofollow">http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/XS-Stock-Online</a>. Frooition promised so much but unfortunately delivered so little and at additional cost.</p>
<p>Chris Dawson on April 2nd, 2009 10:21 pm #12 Unfortunately I think you’ll find that store breaks the new eBay rules</p>
<p>Hi Chris, Our solution was approved by eBay in advance of the changes applied on January 8th and all client sites including the above mentioned site have been upgraded to meet NSE rules by eBay.  We were notified along with other solution providers back in October of last year and our new solution has been signed of by eBay.  In the interest of thoroughness if there is anything in particular you feel is in breach of eBay rules I would apprecaite you getting in touch.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2009/04/project-echo-beta-launches-selling-manager-service.html#comment-17702</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 07:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a great shop and the breaches you have highlighted are not major and could be rectified to make the shop 100% compliant. There is no need to resize the width of the eBay global header and gallery boxes could be squared off, missing preferences could be added etc. The difference is eSellerPro’s design works and works on all shop pages.

It does seem Frooition have chosen the easier option as there must be more work in restyling the category pages, a major business decision error,  but as Liz says in #32 “Category pages can be styled, checked with eBay at Catalyst. Just got to be within thems rules…”. I think Frooition must be seriously regretting the model they have chosen. They need to fix the bugs, apply the design to all pages and begin to look after their customers as a matter of urgency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a great shop and the breaches you have highlighted are not major and could be rectified to make the shop 100% compliant. There is no need to resize the width of the eBay global header and gallery boxes could be squared off, missing preferences could be added etc. The difference is eSellerPro’s design works and works on all shop pages.</p>
<p>It does seem Frooition have chosen the easier option as there must be more work in restyling the category pages, a major business decision error,  but as Liz says in #32 “Category pages can be styled, checked with eBay at Catalyst. Just got to be within thems rules…”. I think Frooition must be seriously regretting the model they have chosen. They need to fix the bugs, apply the design to all pages and begin to look after their customers as a matter of urgency.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Dawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi James, sure - To be perfectly honest in my opinion it&#039;s nit picking, but eBay have specifically forbidden a few things in their new (some would say existing but elaborated upon) policy.

&quot;Taking over the eBay global header&quot; - the store changes the eBay global header and restyles it to a fixed width.

...&quot;or changing the appearance of the in-store search items list&quot; - the line &quot;Preferences: Title &amp; item description  [ Edit preferences &#124; Clear preferences ]&quot; is missing and the boxes around the item gallery view is restyled (Me - I like the curvy corner boxes much better than eBay&#039;s straight lines..... are you reading this eBay? Can you change your site default to curvy corners please? :-D )

There are a few more questionable bits (of what I think is actually a pretty good looking effective shop) but eBay specifically call out those two instances as conflicting with the site interference policy at http://pages.ebay.com/stores/newstore.html#n1

As I said I think it could hardly be considered as something that detracts from the buyer experience, but that&#039;s the new rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi James, sure &#8211; To be perfectly honest in my opinion it&#8217;s nit picking, but eBay have specifically forbidden a few things in their new (some would say existing but elaborated upon) policy.</p>
<p>&#8220;Taking over the eBay global header&#8221; &#8211; the store changes the eBay global header and restyles it to a fixed width.</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8221;or changing the appearance of the in-store search items list&#8221; &#8211; the line &#8220;Preferences: Title &#038; item description  [ Edit preferences | Clear preferences ]&#8221; is missing and the boxes around the item gallery view is restyled (Me &#8211; I like the curvy corner boxes much better than eBay&#8217;s straight lines&#8230;.. are you reading this eBay? Can you change your site default to curvy corners please? <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>There are a few more questionable bits (of what I think is actually a pretty good looking effective shop) but eBay specifically call out those two instances as conflicting with the site interference policy at <a href="http://pages.ebay.com/stores/newstore.html#n1" rel="nofollow">http://pages.ebay.com/stores/newstore.html#n1</a></p>
<p>As I said I think it could hardly be considered as something that detracts from the buyer experience, but that&#8217;s the new rules.</p>
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		<title>By: James Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13 Hi Chris, can you explain why it breaks the new eBay rules?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13 Hi Chris, can you explain why it breaks the new eBay rules?</p>
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		<title>By: northumbrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>northumbrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we sell nothing but one off items
 and the listing process is far and away the single most time consuming operation

we click like demented grass hoppers ,there are so many clicks and processes to go thru when listing
 this is why blackthorne is king with us its worth its fee for
 drag and drop of pictures and ftp upload alone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we sell nothing but one off items<br />
 and the listing process is far and away the single most time consuming operation</p>
<p>we click like demented grass hoppers ,there are so many clicks and processes to go thru when listing<br />
 this is why blackthorne is king with us its worth its fee for<br />
 drag and drop of pictures and ftp upload alone</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie (AuctionPix.co.uk)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie (AuctionPix.co.uk)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how long some of these third party services will survive, especially the ones that use eBay API to create listings with, and rely on that process to attract (or keep) users ?

We dropped AddItem functionality (used to create an eBay listing)  nearly a year ago now, as it is the most complex set of eBay API calls available, and requires &lt;strong&gt;constant maintenance and updates&lt;/strong&gt;, which are both time consuming and expensive in programming terms.

The income has to match or be greater than the expenses incurred, and as I said earlier, the eco climate for eBay developers blows a chilly wind!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how long some of these third party services will survive, especially the ones that use eBay API to create listings with, and rely on that process to attract (or keep) users ?</p>
<p>We dropped AddItem functionality (used to create an eBay listing)  nearly a year ago now, as it is the most complex set of eBay API calls available, and requires <strong>constant maintenance and updates</strong>, which are both time consuming and expensive in programming terms.</p>
<p>The income has to match or be greater than the expenses incurred, and as I said earlier, the eco climate for eBay developers blows a chilly wind!</p>
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		<title>By: Savvy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Savvy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;that gormless bint ,gawking at a monitor, while you lugs get battered with strange music, puts me off spoonfeeder straight away&lt;/i&gt;

Pardon? We drown it out with our own dodgy music lol  :lol:

Their homepage music is a lot worse than anything on the actual app. You just get a quick blast of the &#039;Superman&#039; theme when your listing is submitted. We&#039;ve kind of come to like it in an ironic retro sort of way.

As sellers of one-off items we find it saves us untold hours, and the unlimited free image hosting is a real bargain. It does have a few downsides - item specifics aren&#039;t always updated as quickly as we&#039;d like - but overall we wouldn&#039;t be without it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>that gormless bint ,gawking at a monitor, while you lugs get battered with strange music, puts me off spoonfeeder straight away</i></p>
<p>Pardon? We drown it out with our own dodgy music lol  <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Their homepage music is a lot worse than anything on the actual app. You just get a quick blast of the &#8216;Superman&#8217; theme when your listing is submitted. We&#8217;ve kind of come to like it in an ironic retro sort of way.</p>
<p>As sellers of one-off items we find it saves us untold hours, and the unlimited free image hosting is a real bargain. It does have a few downsides &#8211; item specifics aren&#8217;t always updated as quickly as we&#8217;d like &#8211; but overall we wouldn&#8217;t be without it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>North, mine too - I did talk to Sf about it and they insisted that the majority of their users liked it. I can only conclude that they have particularly good product penetration amongst the non-speaker-owning community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>North, mine too &#8211; I did talk to Sf about it and they insisted that the majority of their users liked it. I can only conclude that they have particularly good product penetration amongst the non-speaker-owning community.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2009/04/project-echo-beta-launches-selling-manager-service.html#comment-17695</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at #19.

Category pages can be styled, checked with eBay at Catalyst. Just got to be within thems rules...

#30

Oh yes, Marketworks really does need an overhaul. I would suggest using the merchant version on inventory uploading and getting rid of the random &#039;marketworks number&#039; method.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at #19.</p>
<p>Category pages can be styled, checked with eBay at Catalyst. Just got to be within thems rules&#8230;</p>
<p>#30</p>
<p>Oh yes, Marketworks really does need an overhaul. I would suggest using the merchant version on inventory uploading and getting rid of the random &#8216;marketworks number&#8217; method.</p>
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