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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2009/04/ebays-new-dispute-resolutions-process-in-action.html#comment-18061</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 21:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an eBay drop off store, we sell unique, usually used items. We try our best to photograph and describe every aspect of the items but many buyers don&#039;t even bother reading the listings anyway.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.twitter.com/shopitla&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@shopitla&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an eBay drop off store, we sell unique, usually used items. We try our best to photograph and describe every aspect of the items but many buyers don&#8217;t even bother reading the listings anyway.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.twitter.com/shopitla" rel="nofollow">@shopitla</a></p>
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		<title>By: persona non grata</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2009/04/ebays-new-dispute-resolutions-process-in-action.html#comment-18060</link>
		<dc:creator>persona non grata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s one from another board of around two weeks ago.

&lt;cite&gt;in Feb 2009 - we bought a 15&quot; flat screen from HK via eBay £105 incl postage from HK - turned up 10 days later - broken - liased with the seller - they instructed us in writing to send it back (via courier) which cost £43!

After numerous e.mails back and forth - today we have still NOT received any refunds - just a load of 8u115h1t!!!

So I start a PayPal dispute online - when all of a sudden an eBay page came up saying that I could either continue with the PayPal dispute or call eBay on their phone number.

So I called em up - within 3 minutes the £105 was refunded PLUS a £20 voucher as a gesture of good will - WELL PLEASED.

So now I am out by only £20&#039;ish.

What a nice start to the day!

Thanks eBay - top drawer service!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s one from another board of around two weeks ago.</p>
<p><cite>in Feb 2009 &#8211; we bought a 15&#8243; flat screen from HK via eBay £105 incl postage from HK &#8211; turned up 10 days later &#8211; broken &#8211; liased with the seller &#8211; they instructed us in writing to send it back (via courier) which cost £43!</p>
<p>After numerous e.mails back and forth &#8211; today we have still NOT received any refunds &#8211; just a load of 8u115h1t!!!</p>
<p>So I start a PayPal dispute online &#8211; when all of a sudden an eBay page came up saying that I could either continue with the PayPal dispute or call eBay on their phone number.</p>
<p>So I called em up &#8211; within 3 minutes the £105 was refunded PLUS a £20 voucher as a gesture of good will &#8211; WELL PLEASED.</p>
<p>So now I am out by only £20&#8242;ish.</p>
<p>What a nice start to the day!</p>
<p>Thanks eBay &#8211; top drawer service!</cite></p>
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		<title>By: ebuyerfb</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2009/04/ebays-new-dispute-resolutions-process-in-action.html#comment-18059</link>
		<dc:creator>ebuyerfb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ # 7

This has been studied before and it was found that people lie more on the phone.  In fact that is the way people lie the most.  This is one of the reasons I try to stick communication to email as much as possible.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4663-people-lie-more-on-the-phone-than-by-email.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ # 7</p>
<p>This has been studied before and it was found that people lie more on the phone.  In fact that is the way people lie the most.  This is one of the reasons I try to stick communication to email as much as possible.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4663-people-lie-more-on-the-phone-than-by-email.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4663-people-lie-more-on-the-phone-than-by-email.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2009/04/ebays-new-dispute-resolutions-process-in-action.html#comment-18058</link>
		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Savvy buyers won&#039;t need to be given the info about NARU status, Sue. It&#039;s visible on the site. They&#039;d just have to look at the item page, the seller profile or any feedback they&#039;ve left.

According to the Vendio link Ina posted, that seller had a recent history of poor feedback. No further details on the other sellers.

But in all cases, the sellers weren&#039;t contacted and allowed to respond at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Savvy buyers won&#8217;t need to be given the info about NARU status, Sue. It&#8217;s visible on the site. They&#8217;d just have to look at the item page, the seller profile or any feedback they&#8217;ve left.</p>
<p>According to the Vendio link Ina posted, that seller had a recent history of poor feedback. No further details on the other sellers.</p>
<p>But in all cases, the sellers weren&#8217;t contacted and allowed to respond at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice of Ina to print the phone number tho ;-)

I&#039;ll see if I can get any comment, but I suspect it will be &quot;we can&#039;t comment on individual cases&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice of Ina to print the phone number tho <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll see if I can get any comment, but I suspect it will be &#8220;we can&#8217;t comment on individual cases&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Aliperti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff Aliperti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, has to be more to the story I&#039;m thinking.  Would love to see something even semi-official from them in response.  Until they do something which is potentially a positive is going to be perceived as train-wreck terrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, has to be more to the story I&#8217;m thinking.  Would love to see something even semi-official from them in response.  Until they do something which is potentially a positive is going to be perceived as train-wreck terrible.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. Would seem VERY odd to me if buyers were given that info: think what normally happens when you report anything to eBay, you get the whole &quot;we can&#039;t give you any info but we have taken the appropriate action&quot; line. And frankly, if eBay are NARUing a seller over ?one? buyer&#039;s statement about a dispute over shipping time, then the site is finished, and I mean that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. Would seem VERY odd to me if buyers were given that info: think what normally happens when you report anything to eBay, you get the whole &#8220;we can&#8217;t give you any info but we have taken the appropriate action&#8221; line. And frankly, if eBay are NARUing a seller over ?one? buyer&#8217;s statement about a dispute over shipping time, then the site is finished, and I mean that.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Aliperti</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2009/04/ebays-new-dispute-resolutions-process-in-action.html#comment-18054</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff Aliperti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sue,

Yes, &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.auctionbytes.com/cgi-bin/blog/blog.pl?/pl/2009/4/1240838488.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&#039;s the AuctionBytes story&lt;/a&gt;.

Second to last paragraph:
&quot;When going through the dispute process, both buyers said they explained the situation to an eBay representative by phone and were immediately refunded, &lt;b&gt;and the sellers suspended&lt;/b&gt;. &quot;

(Ugh!)
Thanks, Cliff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sue,</p>
<p>Yes, <a href="http://blog.auctionbytes.com/cgi-bin/blog/blog.pl?/pl/2009/4/1240838488.html" rel="nofollow">here&#8217;s the AuctionBytes story</a>.</p>
<p>Second to last paragraph:<br />
&#8220;When going through the dispute process, both buyers said they explained the situation to an eBay representative by phone and were immediately refunded, <b>and the sellers suspended</b>. &#8221;</p>
<p>(Ugh!)<br />
Thanks, Cliff</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cliff - we don&#039;t know what happened as far as the seller is concerned because we only have the buyer&#039;s half of the story. As eBay tell it, sometimes the money will be reclaimed from the seller and sometimes it will not be: we don&#039;t know the details of this particular transaction as far as what happened to the seller.

I&#039;m trying to find the one you mentioned on Twitter re. Auctionbytes... someone was suspended? I can&#039;t find the post, can you leave us a link?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cliff &#8211; we don&#8217;t know what happened as far as the seller is concerned because we only have the buyer&#8217;s half of the story. As eBay tell it, sometimes the money will be reclaimed from the seller and sometimes it will not be: we don&#8217;t know the details of this particular transaction as far as what happened to the seller.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to find the one you mentioned on Twitter re. Auctionbytes&#8230; someone was suspended? I can&#8217;t find the post, can you leave us a link?</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Aliperti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff Aliperti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So just to be clear, eBay refunded the buyer out of their own pocket, right?  The seller did not have to pay?

If that&#039;s the policy, well good.  If the seller ever has to pay + lose product, then bad.

Regardless of whether eBay paid or not, does the seller get any kind of strike against them?

It&#039;s interesting, but I think until eBay can make their wording on this more concrete they should be the ones footing the bill to stand by their new process.

Thanks,Cliff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So just to be clear, eBay refunded the buyer out of their own pocket, right?  The seller did not have to pay?</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s the policy, well good.  If the seller ever has to pay + lose product, then bad.</p>
<p>Regardless of whether eBay paid or not, does the seller get any kind of strike against them?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting, but I think until eBay can make their wording on this more concrete they should be the ones footing the bill to stand by their new process.</p>
<p>Thanks,Cliff</p>
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