Comments on: eBay to make free P&P compulsory for DVDs http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html eBay & ecommerce made easy Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:14:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: confused http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-41187 confused Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:17:43 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-41187 Interesting how amazon have reduced the spending threshold for free delivery from £15 down to £5. So for those selling cheap DVD's will feel obliged to reduce their prices or customers will go to amazon directly Interesting how amazon have reduced the spending threshold for free delivery from £15 down to £5. So for those selling cheap DVD’s will feel obliged to reduce their prices or customers will go to amazon directly

]]> By: confused http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-41002 confused Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:24:23 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-41002 Sorry that should have been #113 I thanked Sorry that should have been #113 I thanked

]]> By: confused http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40992 confused Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:22:55 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40992 Thanks #110 Thanks #110

]]> By: katakitty http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40989 katakitty Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:43:07 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40989 It seems to me the only loser in this is the buyer. Any seller worth their salt is going to include the P&P and the increase in fees in the price of the item. The mind boggles at what mathmatical formulas sellers will have to use to try and work out a combined P&P rate so that they don't lose out on the fees element. It seems to me the only loser in this is the buyer. Any seller worth their salt is going to include the P&P and the increase in fees in the price of the item.

The mind boggles at what mathmatical formulas sellers will have to use to try and work out a combined P&P rate so that they don’t lose out on the fees element.

]]> By: Whirly http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40983 Whirly Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:52:29 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40983 118 Thats not my point. eBay is going to force professional sellers to sell DVD's at a higher price at a time when companies typically offer a bargain, if buyers have some xmas money left to spend in these difficult times they are going to be looking for the cheapest option I would imagine which probably won't be eBay. There will be some pin money sellers who either won't understand or won't care so bargains will still exist, but sellers with any brain will see this move as a fee hike. You can dress it up anyway you want eBay, the fact is DVD sellers will pay you more in fee's and the cost of a DVD will go up accordingly.... which leads me onto my best guess that early next year a diamond seller will pop up in the UK market who will trade VAT free and slaughter the competition. 118 Thats not my point.

eBay is going to force professional sellers to sell DVD’s at a higher price at a time when companies typically offer a bargain, if buyers have some xmas money left to spend in these difficult times they are going to be looking for the cheapest option I would imagine which probably won’t be eBay.

There will be some pin money sellers who either won’t understand or won’t care so bargains will still exist, but sellers with any brain will see this move as a fee hike. You can dress it up anyway you want eBay, the fact is DVD sellers will pay you more in fee’s and the cost of a DVD will go up accordingly….

which leads me onto my best guess that early next year a diamond seller will pop up in the UK market who will trade VAT free and slaughter the competition.

]]> By: Josordoni http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40982 Josordoni Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:38:12 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40982 #117 dunno Whirly, January is often my better month compared to December - all that Christmas money burning a hole in people's pockets. #117 dunno Whirly, January is often my better month compared to December – all that Christmas money burning a hole in people’s pockets.

]]> By: Whirly http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40980 Whirly Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:27:24 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40980 Putting up prices just as we enter a recession and just after xmas when people have less money than ever is not something you will find being taught at University,, but you guys won't have any choice.... perhaps eBay don't understand the logic behind "January Sales" when woolies,play,buy,amazon & co all start there sales you guys will be putting up prices... Putting up prices just as we enter a recession and just after xmas when people have less money than ever is not something you will find being taught at University,, but you guys won’t have any choice….

perhaps eBay don’t understand the logic behind “January Sales” when woolies,play,buy,amazon & co all start there sales you guys will be putting up prices…

]]> By: Chris Dawson http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40979 Chris Dawson Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:18:51 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40979 #115 Rebalancing the FVF makes sense - Average (total off the top of my head guess) cost for DVD say £10-£15, average postage say £1.00-£2.00, 10% reduction on FVF for free shipping would cover the postage element in most cases and seems more than reasonable. #115 Rebalancing the FVF makes sense – Average (total off the top of my head guess) cost for DVD say £10-£15, average postage say £1.00-£2.00, 10% reduction on FVF for free shipping would cover the postage element in most cases and seems more than reasonable.

]]> By: Sean M http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40978 Sean M Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:13:17 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40978 #114 That's exactly the point I have been trying to make to people at Ebay but to no avail. My delivered price will go UP on all of my DVD's in order for me to maintain the same profit margin. DVD's on Ebay will be less competitive compared to non Ebay online outlets. How does that help either us or Ebay? Lowering the FVF for DVD's will help to make the change more revenue neutral and will keep us competitive, while at the same time eliminating the overcharging on P&P by bad sellers by putting everyone on a level playing field. The response I have had from Ebay is that every seller I currently compete with on Ebay will have the same increases to bear so I should not worry. FFS! I KNOW! But i'm more concerned about continuing to compete with people outside of Ebay. It's as if Ebay support refuse to acknowledge that Ebay buyers shop anywhere else and that there is no retail world outside of Ebay. So frustrating. Sean #114 That’s exactly the point I have been trying to make to people at Ebay but to no avail.

My delivered price will go UP on all of my DVD’s in order for me to maintain the same profit margin.

DVD’s on Ebay will be less competitive compared to non Ebay online outlets.

How does that help either us or Ebay?

Lowering the FVF for DVD’s will help to make the change more revenue neutral and will keep us competitive, while at the same time eliminating the overcharging on P&P by bad sellers by putting everyone on a level playing field.

The response I have had from Ebay is that every seller I currently compete with on Ebay will have the same increases to bear so I should not worry.

FFS! I KNOW! But i’m more concerned about continuing to compete with people outside of Ebay. It’s as if Ebay support refuse to acknowledge that Ebay buyers shop anywhere else and that there is no retail world outside of Ebay.

So frustrating.

Sean

]]> By: Whirly http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40969 Whirly Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:21:27 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40969 If you do the simple maths any DVD seller with a brain will now include the extra FVF in the total, so all DVD's sold on eBay next year by sellers with a brain will be more expensive for buyers.... Not sure I understand the logic ? If you do the simple maths any DVD seller with a brain will now include the extra FVF in the total, so all DVD’s sold on eBay next year by sellers with a brain will be more expensive for buyers….

Not sure I understand the logic ?

]]> By: Tony Z http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40945 Tony Z Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:11:58 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40945 #32 & 110 Re DVD p&p....Play.Com is free p&p. Amazon you get to keep £1.08 towards p&p out of the £1.24 charged to the buyer. Strangely, video games are £1.70 out of the £1.99 p&p charge. #32 & 110

Re DVD p&p….Play.Com is free p&p. Amazon you get to keep £1.08 towards p&p out of the £1.24 charged to the buyer.

Strangely, video games are £1.70 out of the £1.99 p&p charge.

]]> By: Andy http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40944 Andy Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:56:43 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40944 This policy doesn't go far enough! I will only shop on ebay when everything is free. :) This policy doesn’t go far enough!
I will only shop on ebay when everything is free. :)

]]> By: Tony Z http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40943 Tony Z Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:16:50 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40943 Next up, you will be forced to send an additional item at half price. :lol: Next up, you will be forced to send an additional item at half price. :lol:

]]> By: confused http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40942 confused Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:13:24 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40942 Did #32's question about the postage allowance amazon give you for DVD's get answered? I have begun the process of starting a listing (to see their FVF is 86p + 17.25%), so need to compare this with listing fee + FVF + saved paypal fees, but can't see the allowance they give you for postage. Thanks Did #32’s question about the postage allowance amazon give you for DVD’s get answered?

I have begun the process of starting a listing (to see their FVF is 86p + 17.25%), so need to compare this with listing fee + FVF + saved paypal fees, but can’t see the allowance they give you for postage. Thanks

]]> By: MarkM http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40940 MarkM Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:11:08 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40940 Blimey, I think I got out while the going was good. Blimey, I think I got out while the going was good.

]]> By: Whirly http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40923 Whirly Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:30:50 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40923 "I’d hate to see what they top this with." I am sure they will express there utter contempt for us again before the end of the year,,, I mean we just sell the stuff what do we know about postage & packaging costs...that $20 odd billion ? that gets traded each year by us is all down to pot luck, we are all idiots obviously. “I’d hate to see what they top this with.”

I am sure they will express there utter contempt for us again before the end of the year,,, I mean we just sell the stuff what do we know about postage & packaging costs…that $20 odd billion ? that gets traded each year by us is all down to pot luck, we are all idiots obviously.

]]> By: Christopher http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40921 Christopher Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:41:12 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40921 Worst. Policy. Ever. At least so far... lord know's I thought previous ones were bad, I'd hate to see what they top this with. Worst. Policy. Ever.

At least so far… lord know’s I thought previous ones were bad, I’d hate to see what they top this with.

]]> By: Sue Bailey http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40920 Sue Bailey Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:36:34 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40920 @ Eddie - no. The item you're sending by the heavy/bulky method has to be significantly larger than the category average used to calculate the maximums. It's such an obvious loophole, you can bet eBay (and your competitors) will be watching it like a hawk. @ Eddie – no. The item you’re sending by the heavy/bulky method has to be significantly larger than the category average used to calculate the maximums. It’s such an obvious loophole, you can bet eBay (and your competitors) will be watching it like a hawk.

]]> By: Eddie http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40919 Eddie Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:21:36 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40919 .......an interesting thought! Policy states that : 'In all categories, items which are extremely heavy or bulky and require a specific courier for delivery can be exempted. Sellers should select the option “Courier : Heavy and bulky items” instead of “Flat: same cost to all buyers” in the drop-down menu below the Domestic postage label. We’ll be monitoring this to ensure proper usage of the option.' So, IF you have a Business Post account - which is a courier as it aint Royal Mail, then in theory you can charge P&P for a single DVD - yes or no ? (Yes - Business Post handles the equivalent of 1st/2nd class mail also) …….an interesting thought!

Policy states that :

‘In all categories, items which are extremely heavy or bulky and require a specific courier for delivery can be exempted. Sellers should select the option “Courier : Heavy and bulky items” instead of “Flat: same cost to all buyers” in the drop-down menu below the Domestic postage label. We’ll be monitoring this to ensure proper usage of the option.’

So, IF you have a Business Post account – which is a courier as it aint Royal Mail, then in theory you can charge P&P for a single DVD – yes or no ?

(Yes – Business Post handles the equivalent of 1st/2nd class mail also)

]]> By: Judy http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40913 Judy Tue, 14 Oct 2008 02:00:14 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40913 #100 love your work, Sue. I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but here goes.... eBay AU have also just announced capped postage rates for Books, CDs and DVDs. Not a huge surprise given the similar changes on other eBay sites. But what is really, really getting up my nose is that not one word has been posted by an eBay pink on the Books, Music and Movie board. One pink has made a few posts on the PS Board ( but of course not every book, CD and DVD seller is a PS) and a few on the Round Table, but I would have thought that common courtesy would suggest that a pink at least visit the dedicated board and deal with the questions there. Another nail in eBay's coffin. All those listing fees I'm currently paying are going to buy me a lot of Google adwords #100 love your work, Sue.

I don’t know if this is the right place to post this, but here goes….

eBay AU have also just announced capped postage rates for Books, CDs and DVDs. Not a huge surprise given the similar changes on other eBay sites. But what is really, really getting up my nose is that not one word has been posted by an eBay pink on the Books, Music and Movie board. One pink has made a few posts on the PS Board ( but of course not every book, CD and DVD seller is a PS) and a few on the Round Table, but I would have thought that common courtesy would suggest that a pink at least visit the dedicated board and deal with the questions there.

Another nail in eBay’s coffin. All those listing fees I’m currently paying are going to buy me a lot of Google adwords

]]> By: paul http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40908 paul Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:42:55 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40908 Simple point, if ebay force postage into selling prices etc, they will simply increase the cut they take from selling fee, at moment postage costs do not get charged in selling price, only reason ebay are doing this is so sellers have to build postage into there selling price and thus in turn increase selling fee thus in turn line the pockets of ebay further, as it is now as abuyer you can look at postage and make a choice to buy or not at that price, complaining about postage costs after on DSR etc is a load of rubbish, you can see postage costs before you bid, this change is not to protect buyers but to INCREASE THE MONEY EBAY TAKE OFF SELLERS! Simple point, if ebay force postage into selling prices etc, they will simply increase the cut they take from selling fee, at moment postage costs do not get charged in selling price, only reason ebay are doing this is so sellers have to build postage into there selling price and thus in turn increase selling fee thus in turn line the pockets of ebay further, as it is now as abuyer you can look at postage and make a choice to buy or not at that price, complaining about postage costs after on DSR etc is a load of rubbish, you can see postage costs before you bid, this change is not to protect buyers but to INCREASE THE MONEY EBAY TAKE OFF SELLERS!

]]> By: ebuyerfb http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40905 ebuyerfb Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:39:07 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40905 <blockquote> Vintage & Retro Gaming £5.00 </blockquote> Does this include old arcade machines? You know the kind that would cost hundreds to ship?

Vintage & Retro Gaming
£5.00

Does this include old arcade machines? You know the kind that would cost hundreds to ship?

]]> By: Josordoni http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40904 Josordoni Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:20:10 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40904 #100 the voice of sanity at last. :-D #100
the voice of sanity at last. :-D

]]> By: Sue Bailey http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40898 Sue Bailey Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:12:36 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40898 And.... snipe :-D And…. snipe :-D

]]> By: Sue Bailey http://tamebay.com/2008/10/ebay-to-make-free-pp-compulsory-for-dvds.html#comment-40897 Sue Bailey Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:12:10 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/?p=4603#comment-40897 Des: eBay's figures will always work in eBay's favour; how else would you expect them to be? This one's predictable, and it's not something that eBay are going to be argued out of, so go with it, figure out how to work it to your advantage. ;-) Des: eBay’s figures will always work in eBay’s favour; how else would you expect them to be? This one’s predictable, and it’s not something that eBay are going to be argued out of, so go with it, figure out how to work it to your advantage. ;-)

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