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		<title>By: Layne</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/09/what-ebay-needs-to-do.html#comment-40375</link>
		<dc:creator>Layne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 06:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may be easier these days to figure out Google&#039;s search engine algorithm than to understand all of ebay&#039;s rules and policies. On top of that, they differ for each user.

Just like with anything, when it gets too big, it gets screwed up. Still, there are new internet users everyday, who will become ebay users, filling the slots of the people leaving. I think ebay figures this as well, so they just do whatever they want, figuring they&#039;re the only show in town.

Where&#039;s googbay?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be easier these days to figure out Google&#8217;s search engine algorithm than to understand all of ebay&#8217;s rules and policies. On top of that, they differ for each user.</p>
<p>Just like with anything, when it gets too big, it gets screwed up. Still, there are new internet users everyday, who will become ebay users, filling the slots of the people leaving. I think ebay figures this as well, so they just do whatever they want, figuring they&#8217;re the only show in town.</p>
<p>Where&#8217;s googbay?</p>
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		<title>By: Board_Surfer</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/09/what-ebay-needs-to-do.html#comment-40244</link>
		<dc:creator>Board_Surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be happy if they would just stop sneaking Auction FVF rises into nearly all the change announcements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be happy if they would just stop sneaking Auction FVF rises into nearly all the change announcements.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin_T</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/09/what-ebay-needs-to-do.html#comment-40240</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin_T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;A one-year moratorium on fee changes&lt;/b&gt;
What should be remembered is the reports of Stephanie Tilenius&#039;s speech to Channel Adviser at the beginning of April, where it was clearly stated on the Ebay Blog, et al that &lt;B&gt;&quot;She also made it clear that the concept of an annual price change no longer existed at eBay and that further pricing adjustments could come at any time.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

http://ebayinkblog.com/2008/04/02/ebay-at-channel-advisor%E2%80%99s-catalyst-conference/
(I was actually looking for a transcript of that specific speech when I first found Tamebay, who briefly reported it)  

It really appears that part of Ebay&#039;s strategy is to stop any businesses that use their services from utilising a business plan. Living under the threat of price rises &quot;at any time&quot; does nothing for seller productivity, nor does trying to adjust to constant change.

The points made by Sue above are entirely valid, but I don&#039;t think that Ebay has any intention of slowing changes or co-ordinating them to benefit sellers. Incredibly no buyer that I have spoken to face to face has appreciated the changes either, most of them find having to constantly adjust, just makes Ebay too much work, and they reduce the amount they buy there accordingly. All of that said, I echo Sue above, I am achieving strong sales and very buoyant prices overall - that is the ONLY thing which keeps me active on Ebay. As a seller I feel like I have been treated with contempt this year - my overall fees as a percentage of my sales have risen by more than a third this year, and being in Australia I subsidise the discounts of UK and USA sellers (I would qualify for the top tier discounts if I lived in the UK or North America), and all the while my right to set the fair and reasonable terms of MY business are being undermined constantly (allegedly to protect me, and my buyers).

There are still good sales being made on Ebay, but it is in SPITE of Ebay&#039;s management, not because of it. However, this year, the Ebay brand has been damaged, and brand loyalty is fading among those who I speak to face to face. In my opinion the short term goals are adversely affecting the long term health of Ebay.

Disgruntled (oinkless? ),  Kevin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>A one-year moratorium on fee changes</b><br />
What should be remembered is the reports of Stephanie Tilenius&#8217;s speech to Channel Adviser at the beginning of April, where it was clearly stated on the Ebay Blog, et al that <b>&#8220;She also made it clear that the concept of an annual price change no longer existed at eBay and that further pricing adjustments could come at any time.&#8221;</b></p>
<p><a href="http://ebayinkblog.com/2008/04/02/ebay-at-channel-advisor%E2%80%99s-catalyst-conference/" rel="nofollow">http://ebayinkblog.com/2008/04/02/ebay-at-channel-advisor%E2%80%99s-catalyst-conference/</a><br />
(I was actually looking for a transcript of that specific speech when I first found Tamebay, who briefly reported it)  </p>
<p>It really appears that part of Ebay&#8217;s strategy is to stop any businesses that use their services from utilising a business plan. Living under the threat of price rises &#8220;at any time&#8221; does nothing for seller productivity, nor does trying to adjust to constant change.</p>
<p>The points made by Sue above are entirely valid, but I don&#8217;t think that Ebay has any intention of slowing changes or co-ordinating them to benefit sellers. Incredibly no buyer that I have spoken to face to face has appreciated the changes either, most of them find having to constantly adjust, just makes Ebay too much work, and they reduce the amount they buy there accordingly. All of that said, I echo Sue above, I am achieving strong sales and very buoyant prices overall &#8211; that is the ONLY thing which keeps me active on Ebay. As a seller I feel like I have been treated with contempt this year &#8211; my overall fees as a percentage of my sales have risen by more than a third this year, and being in Australia I subsidise the discounts of UK and USA sellers (I would qualify for the top tier discounts if I lived in the UK or North America), and all the while my right to set the fair and reasonable terms of MY business are being undermined constantly (allegedly to protect me, and my buyers).</p>
<p>There are still good sales being made on Ebay, but it is in SPITE of Ebay&#8217;s management, not because of it. However, this year, the Ebay brand has been damaged, and brand loyalty is fading among those who I speak to face to face. In my opinion the short term goals are adversely affecting the long term health of Ebay.</p>
<p>Disgruntled (oinkless? ),  Kevin</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/09/what-ebay-needs-to-do.html#comment-40236</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#19 Hey Stu, I read your story here earlier in the year and it&#039;s great to read an update from you. Your website experiences are pretty similar to mine - it&#039;s a  much easier and more pleasant way to sell than the ridiculous hoops Ebay makes sellers jump through, isn&#039;t it?

My very best wishes to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19 Hey Stu, I read your story here earlier in the year and it&#8217;s great to read an update from you. Your website experiences are pretty similar to mine &#8211; it&#8217;s a  much easier and more pleasant way to sell than the ridiculous hoops Ebay makes sellers jump through, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>My very best wishes to you.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/09/what-ebay-needs-to-do.html#comment-40212</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is this &quot;prevent reverse engineering from fraudsters?&quot; That is such an excuse. How can a &quot;fraudster&quot; reverse anything if you guys actually set out what the SNP policies will be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is this &#8220;prevent reverse engineering from fraudsters?&#8221; That is such an excuse. How can a &#8220;fraudster&#8221; reverse anything if you guys actually set out what the SNP policies will be?</p>
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		<title>By: Angela B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for nailing these theses to the floor, Sue:) Hope someone is listening...</description>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a slip of the pen Northumbrian. Was a civil servant for nearly 20 years, so I suppose I came in the category of those who couldn&#039;t. Must mend my ways and get a shoebox. Don&#039;t think I&#039;ll keep it in the loft. No sense of balance and might fall on few remaining marbles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a slip of the pen Northumbrian. Was a civil servant for nearly 20 years, so I suppose I came in the category of those who couldn&#8217;t. Must mend my ways and get a shoebox. Don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll keep it in the loft. No sense of balance and might fall on few remaining marbles.</p>
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		<title>By: Whirly</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/09/what-ebay-needs-to-do.html#comment-40195</link>
		<dc:creator>Whirly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#29 Not me, every pound I make at the car boot on Sunday will be declared....

to my shoebox in the loft :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#29 Not me, every pound I make at the car boot on Sunday will be declared&#8230;.</p>
<p>to my shoebox in the loft <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: northumbrian</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/09/what-ebay-needs-to-do.html#comment-40194</link>
		<dc:creator>northumbrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wadda ya mean &quot;SOME&quot; people fiddle their taxes
 any one who can does :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wadda ya mean &#8220;SOME&#8221; people fiddle their taxes<br />
 any one who can does <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/09/what-ebay-needs-to-do.html#comment-40193</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I presume Richard (from eBay) will have no problem if next year the Inland Revenue decides that because some people fiddle their taxes the system is being changed. He won&#039;t know how much he is paying, how it is worked out or when it will be taken. Random payments will be taken, which he will be unable to check, because the formula is a secret. There will be no Customer Services provided, unless he is among the top 10% of earners. Off course he could always ask a question on a forum, and get told he&#039;s just a dolphin so he doesn&#039;t matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I presume Richard (from eBay) will have no problem if next year the Inland Revenue decides that because some people fiddle their taxes the system is being changed. He won&#8217;t know how much he is paying, how it is worked out or when it will be taken. Random payments will be taken, which he will be unable to check, because the formula is a secret. There will be no Customer Services provided, unless he is among the top 10% of earners. Off course he could always ask a question on a forum, and get told he&#8217;s just a dolphin so he doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
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		<title>By: northumbrian</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/09/what-ebay-needs-to-do.html#comment-40192</link>
		<dc:creator>northumbrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whoops nearly forgot
 to say

 Oh goody more sales for me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoops nearly forgot<br />
 to say</p>
<p> Oh goody more sales for me</p>
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		<title>By: faculty-x</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/09/what-ebay-needs-to-do.html#comment-40189</link>
		<dc:creator>faculty-x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i did make this point on another forum  :roll: 
but it did not go down well....but anyway

How are we protected from buyers buying loads from a seller, not paying and then mutually agreeing the sale void

is the item still search ranking improved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i did make this point on another forum  <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
but it did not go down well&#8230;.but anyway</p>
<p>How are we protected from buyers buying loads from a seller, not paying and then mutually agreeing the sale void</p>
<p>is the item still search ranking improved.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Bailey</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/09/what-ebay-needs-to-do.html#comment-40188</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for responding, Richard. Few more thoughts of my own then:

with #4 &quot;preventing reverse-engineering by fraudsters&quot; - it worries me that eBay let this priority dominate. You punish all the thousands of good sellers you have, because of a few fraudsters. For example, you&#039;re currently stopping many decent sellers from listing genuine branded goods, with a secret listing limit that they only know about when they hit it. How is this going to stop fraudsters, who&#039;ll just open another account to sell fakes?

and regarding #6, the paper payments policy  - if a buyer chooses to pay with a cheque, that&#039;s in spite of all the publicity all over eBay saying that PayPal is safer. At some point, you have to let buyers make their own decisions. If they choose to post a cheque, that should be up to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for responding, Richard. Few more thoughts of my own then:</p>
<p>with #4 &#8220;preventing reverse-engineering by fraudsters&#8221; &#8211; it worries me that eBay let this priority dominate. You punish all the thousands of good sellers you have, because of a few fraudsters. For example, you&#8217;re currently stopping many decent sellers from listing genuine branded goods, with a secret listing limit that they only know about when they hit it. How is this going to stop fraudsters, who&#8217;ll just open another account to sell fakes?</p>
<p>and regarding #6, the paper payments policy  &#8211; if a buyer chooses to pay with a cheque, that&#8217;s in spite of all the publicity all over eBay saying that PayPal is safer. At some point, you have to let buyers make their own decisions. If they choose to post a cheque, that should be up to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can somebody tell me how long it takes for the seller dashboard to appear? The announcement on 30th May implied that everyone with 10 DSRs in the last 12 months will get one. My DSRs appeared on My Ebay when I got my 10th DSR on 16th September and I now have 12, but still no sign of a dashboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can somebody tell me how long it takes for the seller dashboard to appear? The announcement on 30th May implied that everyone with 10 DSRs in the last 12 months will get one. My DSRs appeared on My Ebay when I got my 10th DSR on 16th September and I now have 12, but still no sign of a dashboard.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/09/what-ebay-needs-to-do.html#comment-40184</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20, I don&#039;t have any problem with the new search. I would say it is an improvement if anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20, I don&#8217;t have any problem with the new search. I would say it is an improvement if anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard (from eBay)</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/09/what-ebay-needs-to-do.html#comment-40183</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard (from eBay)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Sue - interesting post.  At least there are 9 rather than 95...

I can&#039;t comment on all of them - but I hope other staff might, if not necessarily here.  2, 3, 4, 6 and 7 fall more or less within my purview; here are my very brief thoughts on them:

2 - Yes, makes sense.  Although sellers can glean more from DSRs than they could before DSRs, I understand the hunger for more transparency as we build more benefits and sanctions on them.  This is in plan, but it&#039;s not likely we&#039;ll see changes in 2008.

3 - Also makes sense.  We&#039;ve made changes to the SNP system already this year to give all but the worst-performing sellers warning before we take action against their accounts.  There are appeal routes now but I agree they could be made easier.  From our point of view, the great majority of appeals that we handle now are from sellers who are &#039;bang to rights&#039; - the close-calls and sellers with legitimite excuses are the ones who make the blogs.

4. We&#039;ll try to get as transparent as we can - I accept the current forest of policies and consequences are difficult to follow.  Some areas may need to remain somewhat opaque despite this, either to prevent reverse-engineering by fraudsters or because some policies (like fraud risk management or SNP) are by their nature &#039;model-based&#039; and hence difficult to communicate clearly.

6. The ban on paper is a US move - we have no plans to replicate it in the UK, where the payments landscape is very different.  You may scoff, but these moves aren&#039;t to promote our bottom line.  We&#039;re pretty clear that they cost us about as much in lost buyers and sellers as they gain us in PP fees.  They&#039;re made to try to stem the flow of buyers (and, to a lesser extent, sellers) who experience financial loss on eBay.  The paper ban is unlikely to be rolled back in the US.

7. This is coming soon - at the very end of October.  We&#039;ll be trying to strike a balance between allowing sellers to get &#039;unfair&#039; comments removed and not moving back to a world where buyers are harassed if they leave negative feedback.

Regards
Richard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Sue &#8211; interesting post.  At least there are 9 rather than 95&#8230;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t comment on all of them &#8211; but I hope other staff might, if not necessarily here.  2, 3, 4, 6 and 7 fall more or less within my purview; here are my very brief thoughts on them:</p>
<p>2 &#8211; Yes, makes sense.  Although sellers can glean more from DSRs than they could before DSRs, I understand the hunger for more transparency as we build more benefits and sanctions on them.  This is in plan, but it&#8217;s not likely we&#8217;ll see changes in 2008.</p>
<p>3 &#8211; Also makes sense.  We&#8217;ve made changes to the SNP system already this year to give all but the worst-performing sellers warning before we take action against their accounts.  There are appeal routes now but I agree they could be made easier.  From our point of view, the great majority of appeals that we handle now are from sellers who are &#8216;bang to rights&#8217; &#8211; the close-calls and sellers with legitimite excuses are the ones who make the blogs.</p>
<p>4. We&#8217;ll try to get as transparent as we can &#8211; I accept the current forest of policies and consequences are difficult to follow.  Some areas may need to remain somewhat opaque despite this, either to prevent reverse-engineering by fraudsters or because some policies (like fraud risk management or SNP) are by their nature &#8216;model-based&#8217; and hence difficult to communicate clearly.</p>
<p>6. The ban on paper is a US move &#8211; we have no plans to replicate it in the UK, where the payments landscape is very different.  You may scoff, but these moves aren&#8217;t to promote our bottom line.  We&#8217;re pretty clear that they cost us about as much in lost buyers and sellers as they gain us in PP fees.  They&#8217;re made to try to stem the flow of buyers (and, to a lesser extent, sellers) who experience financial loss on eBay.  The paper ban is unlikely to be rolled back in the US.</p>
<p>7. This is coming soon &#8211; at the very end of October.  We&#8217;ll be trying to strike a balance between allowing sellers to get &#8216;unfair&#8217; comments removed and not moving back to a world where buyers are harassed if they leave negative feedback.</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Richard</p>
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		<title>By: northumbrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>northumbrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as A buyer I dont want to miss those items that are available, but are not available so to speak because the seller does not know how to get the item seen
 I want to see all that is available and then make my decision</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as A buyer I dont want to miss those items that are available, but are not available so to speak because the seller does not know how to get the item seen<br />
 I want to see all that is available and then make my decision</p>
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		<title>By: katakitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>katakitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can reluctantly put up with fee changes, DSR&#039;s, policies etc but the number one issue for me as a buyer is the bl***y search !  I don&#039;t want or require a list of alternatives because my criteria brought up zilch for cyring out loud.  

One of these days my teacup is going to go through the computer screen in frustration.  

Selling on eBay has always been a time consuming chore but more importantly buying has now become a chore and surely that can&#039;t be right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can reluctantly put up with fee changes, DSR&#8217;s, policies etc but the number one issue for me as a buyer is the bl***y search !  I don&#8217;t want or require a list of alternatives because my criteria brought up zilch for cyring out loud.  </p>
<p>One of these days my teacup is going to go through the computer screen in frustration.  </p>
<p>Selling on eBay has always been a time consuming chore but more importantly buying has now become a chore and surely that can&#8217;t be right.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/09/what-ebay-needs-to-do.html#comment-40175</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I have to say ebay did me the biggest favour in the world when they suspended me in March over £120!! lol

Not only have I missed out on all these changes and constant hoop jumping but the company is doing better without it!

When it happened and we relied on ebay 90% I thought that&#039;s it, it&#039;s over! But picked myself back on and forged on with the websites. 

Our website sales alone are more than we took on ebay 6 months ago (it was our 6 month anniversary on the 19th sept) let alone anything else we are doing:

Unit spend is up

Overheads are down, ebay is very time consuming

Stupid emails and questions are down!

Profit is up!!

All I can say is move away, make the jump to your own websites and push at them and it will work, I&#039;m not saying don&#039;t have ebay as part of the plan just make it a smaller part!

stu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I have to say ebay did me the biggest favour in the world when they suspended me in March over £120!! lol</p>
<p>Not only have I missed out on all these changes and constant hoop jumping but the company is doing better without it!</p>
<p>When it happened and we relied on ebay 90% I thought that&#8217;s it, it&#8217;s over! But picked myself back on and forged on with the websites. </p>
<p>Our website sales alone are more than we took on ebay 6 months ago (it was our 6 month anniversary on the 19th sept) let alone anything else we are doing:</p>
<p>Unit spend is up</p>
<p>Overheads are down, ebay is very time consuming</p>
<p>Stupid emails and questions are down!</p>
<p>Profit is up!!</p>
<p>All I can say is move away, make the jump to your own websites and push at them and it will work, I&#8217;m not saying don&#8217;t have ebay as part of the plan just make it a smaller part!</p>
<p>stu</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Classic</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/09/what-ebay-needs-to-do.html#comment-40173</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Classic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just some thoughts on &quot;Best Match&quot; and &quot;DSR&#039;S&quot;...

With the current &quot;invisibility&quot; of the Best Match algorythm, Ebay can do what they please.

They could favour any large seller as a sweetener to get them onside.

We have already seen Ebay do this with Buy.com with a &quot;special rate&quot; for listing.

Now if Ebay are prepared to give a special rate, who is to say why they would not give a &quot;special&quot; placement in search.

The invisibility of &quot;best match&quot; is a concern, and until it is transparent, there is going to be this distrust of Ebay.

Why keep it hidden other than to benefit someone?

Keeping it hidden does not benefit the seller that is for sure.

Keeping it hidden does not benefit the buyer (if it does I cannot figure out a reason). I know they can argue the best listings can get the best sales, but who defines what the &quot;best listings&quot; are and for who&#039;s benefit?

That is an irrelevant argument for the buyer, they just want to buy something based on their criteria, but Ebay have decided to set the criteria, which ultimately has to be in their best interests.

If it were open, then sellers and buyers would know why there is success in some quarters and not others and respond appropriately.

Keeping it hidden so that Ebay can favour corporate clients benefits Ebay, a wonderful sweetener, if that is indeed happening.

&quot;We will give you the best fees and the best placement if you put all of your inventory on Ebay, are you interested?&quot;

This is the only logical reason I can think of for having &quot;Best Match&quot; closed to scrutiny.

Something that is hidden by nature is trying to hide something.

Have you also noticed that DSR&#039;s calculations are hidden...

Now Buys DSR&#039;s sit there at a comfortable 4.8 across the board.

Could it be that DSR ratings are hidden to benefit corporate clients?

Could it be that Best Match algorithm is hidden to benefit corporate clients?

While it is all so hush hush, how will we ever know?

Now if you were trying to bring a big seller online to replace all the small sellers, without alienating those small sellers, how would you do it?

Would you create a system whereby you could do the following:

1. Move out the small sellers that clutter the site with low value items. 
2. Give the corporates lower rates.
2. Protect the corporates from buyer discontent with a weighted hidden feedback system.
3. Favour the corporates in searches.

That would work, wouldn&#039;t it?

And remember, the current changes are just the first year of a three year plan according to J. Donahoe (the MD of Ebay).

A three year plan to achieve what exactly?

The corporate selling hub of the internet?

Thoughts?


Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just some thoughts on &#8220;Best Match&#8221; and &#8220;DSR&#8217;S&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>With the current &#8220;invisibility&#8221; of the Best Match algorythm, Ebay can do what they please.</p>
<p>They could favour any large seller as a sweetener to get them onside.</p>
<p>We have already seen Ebay do this with Buy.com with a &#8220;special rate&#8221; for listing.</p>
<p>Now if Ebay are prepared to give a special rate, who is to say why they would not give a &#8220;special&#8221; placement in search.</p>
<p>The invisibility of &#8220;best match&#8221; is a concern, and until it is transparent, there is going to be this distrust of Ebay.</p>
<p>Why keep it hidden other than to benefit someone?</p>
<p>Keeping it hidden does not benefit the seller that is for sure.</p>
<p>Keeping it hidden does not benefit the buyer (if it does I cannot figure out a reason). I know they can argue the best listings can get the best sales, but who defines what the &#8220;best listings&#8221; are and for who&#8217;s benefit?</p>
<p>That is an irrelevant argument for the buyer, they just want to buy something based on their criteria, but Ebay have decided to set the criteria, which ultimately has to be in their best interests.</p>
<p>If it were open, then sellers and buyers would know why there is success in some quarters and not others and respond appropriately.</p>
<p>Keeping it hidden so that Ebay can favour corporate clients benefits Ebay, a wonderful sweetener, if that is indeed happening.</p>
<p>&#8220;We will give you the best fees and the best placement if you put all of your inventory on Ebay, are you interested?&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the only logical reason I can think of for having &#8220;Best Match&#8221; closed to scrutiny.</p>
<p>Something that is hidden by nature is trying to hide something.</p>
<p>Have you also noticed that DSR&#8217;s calculations are hidden&#8230;</p>
<p>Now Buys DSR&#8217;s sit there at a comfortable 4.8 across the board.</p>
<p>Could it be that DSR ratings are hidden to benefit corporate clients?</p>
<p>Could it be that Best Match algorithm is hidden to benefit corporate clients?</p>
<p>While it is all so hush hush, how will we ever know?</p>
<p>Now if you were trying to bring a big seller online to replace all the small sellers, without alienating those small sellers, how would you do it?</p>
<p>Would you create a system whereby you could do the following:</p>
<p>1. Move out the small sellers that clutter the site with low value items.<br />
2. Give the corporates lower rates.<br />
2. Protect the corporates from buyer discontent with a weighted hidden feedback system.<br />
3. Favour the corporates in searches.</p>
<p>That would work, wouldn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>And remember, the current changes are just the first year of a three year plan according to J. Donahoe (the MD of Ebay).</p>
<p>A three year plan to achieve what exactly?</p>
<p>The corporate selling hub of the internet?</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Ed (BuildaSkill)</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/09/what-ebay-needs-to-do.html#comment-40164</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed (BuildaSkill)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#11 Sue 

I can only suspect they are still &quot;perfecting&quot; the shopping cart on India.

Remembering India has two heavily used payment systems only available within India (PaisaPay and that one for paying direct to sellers from local banks), and that PayPal is not widely adopted there, there has been a lot of fine tuning and tweaking of the various payment systems there, this year.  

I do suspect we will all eventually get it, but also suspect that there are issues with direct bank payments.  Oz, SG, and a number of other sites (including Belgium for example) have the option to input seller bank details when listing, and have them displayed automatically to winning bidders as a payment option.  The Indian system goes a little beyond this and my feeling is that &quot;eBay Payments&quot; as opposed to PayPal, are having issues getting this to work as fluidly and as fully integrated as they&#039;d like it to work.  

Best guess is they&#039;re looking for some sort of API call back from the banks to confirm the payment happened.

The banks globally are working on such systems - refer to the ipcno.com website for one such initiative.  Toss in the increasing trend of &quot;mobile banking &amp; payments&quot; via phones etc. and the writing begins to look like it&#039;s on the wall for systems like PayPal etc, for non-international payments.  The banks are even planning competing for the (to them, previously) unprofitable micro-payments business now - that&#039;ll yield an interesting (and probably bloody) shake-out of the online payments industry.

I also believe with all this rapid development in the payments world, eBay don&#039;t want to be caught releasing an already outdated cart system, and that&#039;s the prime reason for delivery delays on a global scale.  This thought would be confirmed if eBay rolled out a cart to another minor site, with a different look and feel to the cart system, compared to India.

Time will tell.

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#11 Sue </p>
<p>I can only suspect they are still &#8220;perfecting&#8221; the shopping cart on India.</p>
<p>Remembering India has two heavily used payment systems only available within India (PaisaPay and that one for paying direct to sellers from local banks), and that PayPal is not widely adopted there, there has been a lot of fine tuning and tweaking of the various payment systems there, this year.  </p>
<p>I do suspect we will all eventually get it, but also suspect that there are issues with direct bank payments.  Oz, SG, and a number of other sites (including Belgium for example) have the option to input seller bank details when listing, and have them displayed automatically to winning bidders as a payment option.  The Indian system goes a little beyond this and my feeling is that &#8220;eBay Payments&#8221; as opposed to PayPal, are having issues getting this to work as fluidly and as fully integrated as they&#8217;d like it to work.  </p>
<p>Best guess is they&#8217;re looking for some sort of API call back from the banks to confirm the payment happened.</p>
<p>The banks globally are working on such systems &#8211; refer to the ipcno.com website for one such initiative.  Toss in the increasing trend of &#8220;mobile banking &amp; payments&#8221; via phones etc. and the writing begins to look like it&#8217;s on the wall for systems like PayPal etc, for non-international payments.  The banks are even planning competing for the (to them, previously) unprofitable micro-payments business now &#8211; that&#8217;ll yield an interesting (and probably bloody) shake-out of the online payments industry.</p>
<p>I also believe with all this rapid development in the payments world, eBay don&#8217;t want to be caught releasing an already outdated cart system, and that&#8217;s the prime reason for delivery delays on a global scale.  This thought would be confirmed if eBay rolled out a cart to another minor site, with a different look and feel to the cart system, compared to India.</p>
<p>Time will tell.</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/09/what-ebay-needs-to-do.html#comment-40160</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#15 Paul but you have position 1, 2, 4 &amp; 5 when I do the said search. What&#039;s the problem?</description>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/09/what-ebay-needs-to-do.html#comment-40158</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And with reference to Best Match

Its a joke &#039;search on &#039;GUDEBROD SILK&#039; ... see 380068211688 and compare it with 280269154296

The USA sellers product is currently at position 3 (total price £9.42 - no sales - average DSR&#039;s) whereas my item is at 5 (total price £6.25 - good DSR&#039;s)..

A simple example to prove BEST MATCH is nothing but a piece of useless maths!  

Which is a better match? Even a simpleton can see its the latter... 

If in such a simple example the search results are clearly wrong what hope is there for the other few million listings???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And with reference to Best Match</p>
<p>Its a joke &#8217;search on &#8216;GUDEBROD SILK&#8217; &#8230; see 380068211688 and compare it with 280269154296</p>
<p>The USA sellers product is currently at position 3 (total price £9.42 &#8211; no sales &#8211; average DSR&#8217;s) whereas my item is at 5 (total price £6.25 &#8211; good DSR&#8217;s)..</p>
<p>A simple example to prove BEST MATCH is nothing but a piece of useless maths!  </p>
<p>Which is a better match? Even a simpleton can see its the latter&#8230; </p>
<p>If in such a simple example the search results are clearly wrong what hope is there for the other few million listings???</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/09/what-ebay-needs-to-do.html#comment-40157</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add to the list..

Reconsider the intention to withdraw the left hand shop navigation and replace it with the links across the top of the listing description (4 catagories plus a drop down box with perhaps 20 more).

Buyers expect to see left side navigation and we should have the choice to use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add to the list..</p>
<p>Reconsider the intention to withdraw the left hand shop navigation and replace it with the links across the top of the listing description (4 catagories plus a drop down box with perhaps 20 more).</p>
<p>Buyers expect to see left side navigation and we should have the choice to use it.</p>
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		<title>By: Whirly</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/09/what-ebay-needs-to-do.html#comment-40156</link>
		<dc:creator>Whirly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#12 I am convinced that eBay support has had it&#039;s number redirected to British Gas by mistake, this is the only possible reason why they reply to every question with a completely unrelated answer,,

there cannot be any other explanation,, you would have to drop to the very lowest depths of stupidity to stand up in front of share holders and tell them everything is under control given the facts to hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12 I am convinced that eBay support has had it&#8217;s number redirected to British Gas by mistake, this is the only possible reason why they reply to every question with a completely unrelated answer,,</p>
<p>there cannot be any other explanation,, you would have to drop to the very lowest depths of stupidity to stand up in front of share holders and tell them everything is under control given the facts to hand.</p>
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