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		<title>By: Disgruntled Ebay Powerseller</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-town-hall-its-all-about-the-feedback.html#comment-36834</link>
		<dc:creator>Disgruntled Ebay Powerseller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All those who are for the changes, you are in for a rude awakening.
Stop by and check out the article, from the wall street journal. Your little EBAY, is going down the tubes!
http://blogs.wsj.com/biztech/2008/06/24/ebay-angers-sellers-pleases-buyers/?mod=wsjcrmain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All those who are for the changes, you are in for a rude awakening.<br />
Stop by and check out the article, from the wall street journal. Your little EBAY, is going down the tubes!<br />
<a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/biztech/2008/06/24/ebay-angers-sellers-pleases-buyers/?mod=wsjcrmain" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.wsj.com/biztech/2008/06/24/ebay-angers-sellers-pleases-buyers/?mod=wsjcrmain</a></p>
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		<title>By: Disgruntled Ebay Powerseller</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-town-hall-its-all-about-the-feedback.html#comment-36832</link>
		<dc:creator>Disgruntled Ebay Powerseller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garbage, pure garbage is what ebay is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garbage, pure garbage is what ebay is!</p>
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		<title>By: TheBrewsNews</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-town-hall-its-all-about-the-feedback.html#comment-36701</link>
		<dc:creator>TheBrewsNews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess Monroe Labouisse failed to mention that Paypal only is already in the U.S.... for any seller who wants to offer items to the U.K. or Australia.  But then eBay and PayPal have failed to notify anyone of that requirement.  It&#039;s only when an eBay.com seller attempts to list an item without Paypal that they would learn of this new U.S. PAYPAL ONLY policy. 

His definitive statement was a little lacking in the details.... U.S. sellers who ONLY offer items to U.S. buyers will not have not have to offer Paypal if they are NOT a new seller or if they are NOT a seller in a high risk category or if they do have a merchant account, etc.  If the eBay.com seller or the seller&#039;s items do not fall within that narrow window then it is PAYPAL ONLY for the U.S. 

eBay and Paypal are great at putting a really good spin on things as long as they don&#039;t have to delve into the details.  They promise the moon and deliver cheese instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess Monroe Labouisse failed to mention that Paypal only is already in the U.S&#8230;. for any seller who wants to offer items to the U.K. or Australia.  But then eBay and PayPal have failed to notify anyone of that requirement.  It&#8217;s only when an eBay.com seller attempts to list an item without Paypal that they would learn of this new U.S. PAYPAL ONLY policy. </p>
<p>His definitive statement was a little lacking in the details&#8230;. U.S. sellers who ONLY offer items to U.S. buyers will not have not have to offer Paypal if they are NOT a new seller or if they are NOT a seller in a high risk category or if they do have a merchant account, etc.  If the eBay.com seller or the seller&#8217;s items do not fall within that narrow window then it is PAYPAL ONLY for the U.S. </p>
<p>eBay and Paypal are great at putting a really good spin on things as long as they don&#8217;t have to delve into the details.  They promise the moon and deliver cheese instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Bailey</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-town-hall-its-all-about-the-feedback.html#comment-36700</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, FenLex - I think it&#039;s just a word that Dinesh likes, I heard him say it a few times during the week. 

*ignores the mean children*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, FenLex &#8211; I think it&#8217;s just a word that Dinesh likes, I heard him say it a few times during the week. </p>
<p>*ignores the mean children*</p>
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		<title>By: FenLex</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-town-hall-its-all-about-the-feedback.html#comment-36695</link>
		<dc:creator>FenLex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10: Thanks Sue for the translation into English.

Goodness only knows why couldn&#039;t they have said it in English in the first place!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10: Thanks Sue for the translation into English.</p>
<p>Goodness only knows why couldn&#8217;t they have said it in English in the first place!</p>
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		<title>By: Josordoni</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-town-hall-its-all-about-the-feedback.html#comment-36688</link>
		<dc:creator>Josordoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good point North!  

Was it tempting?  Nooooooo of course not!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good point North!  </p>
<p>Was it tempting?  Nooooooo of course not!</p>
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		<title>By: northumbrian</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-town-hall-its-all-about-the-feedback.html#comment-36686</link>
		<dc:creator>northumbrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good job you said look rather than jump :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good job you said look rather than jump <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Josordoni</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-town-hall-its-all-about-the-feedback.html#comment-36683</link>
		<dc:creator>Josordoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Sue..

now get out there and look at the Lake!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Sue..</p>
<p>now get out there and look at the Lake!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Super Max</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-town-hall-its-all-about-the-feedback.html#comment-36680</link>
		<dc:creator>Super Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with North to the extent that I&#039;m not going to change anything, I already do everything I can, and its reflected in my 100% feedback on all my accounts and 4.8-5.0 DSR across the board.

But I&#039;m still a stats junkie and the more detail the better as far as I&#039;m concerned. I have all the Terapeak, Omniture, Sellathon statistics, plus the access_log from images loaded off my own domain. 

While it might not change how I do business I&#039;m still nosy enough to want know how each viewer found my item, what keywords they searched for, what order they listed the results in, what os they run, what browser they use, what other items (of mine) they looked at, and every other bit of information I can get!

This information may or may not be commercially valuable, but I still want it just to satisfy my own curiosity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with North to the extent that I&#8217;m not going to change anything, I already do everything I can, and its reflected in my 100% feedback on all my accounts and 4.8-5.0 DSR across the board.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m still a stats junkie and the more detail the better as far as I&#8217;m concerned. I have all the Terapeak, Omniture, Sellathon statistics, plus the access_log from images loaded off my own domain. </p>
<p>While it might not change how I do business I&#8217;m still nosy enough to want know how each viewer found my item, what keywords they searched for, what order they listed the results in, what os they run, what browser they use, what other items (of mine) they looked at, and every other bit of information I can get!</p>
<p>This information may or may not be commercially valuable, but I still want it just to satisfy my own curiosity.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Bailey</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-town-hall-its-all-about-the-feedback.html#comment-36679</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding granularity: the idea is that we will have more information about what *sort* of buyers have left what *sort* of DSRs, so the scores may be broken down by category, or postal service or whatever. So you would be able to see if it&#039;s your courier prices or your RM prices that are causing a ding in your P&amp;P DSRs.

They&#039;re also opening up the DSRs with an API, so that third party developers will be able to make tools to display the data in different ways. I think that should lead to some exciting developments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding granularity: the idea is that we will have more information about what *sort* of buyers have left what *sort* of DSRs, so the scores may be broken down by category, or postal service or whatever. So you would be able to see if it&#8217;s your courier prices or your RM prices that are causing a ding in your P&#038;P DSRs.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re also opening up the DSRs with an API, so that third party developers will be able to make tools to display the data in different ways. I think that should lead to some exciting developments.</p>
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		<title>By: Josordoni</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-town-hall-its-all-about-the-feedback.html#comment-36676</link>
		<dc:creator>Josordoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting comments about granular data here :
http://www.hear2.com/2008/03/the-incredible.html

this refers to radio, rather than eBay listings, but the principle is the same... you will get to guess at all sorts of spurious reasons why people are doing what they are doing, but it won&#039;t help a jot in making them do what you want them to do.

as he says:

&quot;Don&#039;t take my word for it, or Jonah&#039;s. Listen to what this guy has to say:

   &lt;i&gt;&quot;Of what value is he who, in order to abbreviate the parts of those things which he professes to give complete knowledge, leaves out the greater part of the things of which the whole is composed? Oh, human stupidity! You don&#039;t see that you are falling into the same error as one who strips a tree of its adornment of branches full of leaves, intermingled with fragrant flowers or fruit, in order to demonstrate the the tree is good for making planks.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Not my words. The words of a famed engineer, artist, sculptor, architect, athlete, scientist, anatomist, and radio industry consultant.

The words of Leonardo da Vinci.&quot;


(p.s. from me, don&#039;t really know what Leo meant, but it reads good don&#039;t it! )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting comments about granular data here :<br />
<a href="http://www.hear2.com/2008/03/the-incredible.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.hear2.com/2008/03/the-incredible.html</a></p>
<p>this refers to radio, rather than eBay listings, but the principle is the same&#8230; you will get to guess at all sorts of spurious reasons why people are doing what they are doing, but it won&#8217;t help a jot in making them do what you want them to do.</p>
<p>as he says:</p>
<p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t take my word for it, or Jonah&#8217;s. Listen to what this guy has to say:</p>
<p>   <i>&#8220;Of what value is he who, in order to abbreviate the parts of those things which he professes to give complete knowledge, leaves out the greater part of the things of which the whole is composed? Oh, human stupidity! You don&#8217;t see that you are falling into the same error as one who strips a tree of its adornment of branches full of leaves, intermingled with fragrant flowers or fruit, in order to demonstrate the the tree is good for making planks.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Not my words. The words of a famed engineer, artist, sculptor, architect, athlete, scientist, anatomist, and radio industry consultant.</p>
<p>The words of Leonardo da Vinci.&#8221;</p>
<p>(p.s. from me, don&#8217;t really know what Leo meant, but it reads good don&#8217;t it! )</p>
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		<title>By: Larrylackpants</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larrylackpants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with northumbrian (6).  There comes a point where nothing else can be altered or improved. 
Granular data won&#039;t make it easier, just more tails to chase for the poor seller who is at risk for the uneducated/unwitting buyer.

Ebay have placed such a massive responsibility on buyers to give accurate and honest ratings so that the sellers they buy from can stay and keep selling, and they don&#039;t even know!

Creating high buyer confidence is good but not at the expense of seller confidence.  
I think ebay are forgetting that sellers are people too, not machines or programs that can be &quot;optimised&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with northumbrian (6).  There comes a point where nothing else can be altered or improved.<br />
Granular data won&#8217;t make it easier, just more tails to chase for the poor seller who is at risk for the uneducated/unwitting buyer.</p>
<p>Ebay have placed such a massive responsibility on buyers to give accurate and honest ratings so that the sellers they buy from can stay and keep selling, and they don&#8217;t even know!</p>
<p>Creating high buyer confidence is good but not at the expense of seller confidence.<br />
I think ebay are forgetting that sellers are people too, not machines or programs that can be &#8220;optimised&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Josordoni</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-town-hall-its-all-about-the-feedback.html#comment-36674</link>
		<dc:creator>Josordoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@board_surfer..

:-D groan...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@board_surfer..</p>
<p> <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  groan&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: northumbrian</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-town-hall-its-all-about-the-feedback.html#comment-36673</link>
		<dc:creator>northumbrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we are in great danger here ,of the tail wagging the dog!
 
information is only useful if it can be used,
 there is bugger all I am going to alter now ,
 I have tweaked and twitched everything I am going too,
 whats after grains, soon we will all need a microscope to conduct our ebay business</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we are in great danger here ,of the tail wagging the dog!</p>
<p>information is only useful if it can be used,<br />
 there is bugger all I am going to alter now ,<br />
 I have tweaked and twitched everything I am going too,<br />
 whats after grains, soon we will all need a microscope to conduct our ebay business</p>
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		<title>By: Board_Surfer</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-town-hall-its-all-about-the-feedback.html#comment-36672</link>
		<dc:creator>Board_Surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;more granularity into DSR results&quot;

Oh Sugar!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;more granularity into DSR results&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh Sugar!</p>
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		<title>By: northumbrian</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-town-hall-its-all-about-the-feedback.html#comment-36671</link>
		<dc:creator>northumbrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who cares
 money and profit are the only two details I need</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who cares<br />
 money and profit are the only two details I need</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-town-hall-its-all-about-the-feedback.html#comment-36670</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 23:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or in other words to remove the last vestiges of possibilty that sellers will qualify for discounted selling fees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or in other words to remove the last vestiges of possibilty that sellers will qualify for discounted selling fees.</p>
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		<title>By: FenLex</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-town-hall-its-all-about-the-feedback.html#comment-36669</link>
		<dc:creator>FenLex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m assuming that &quot;definite plan to introduce more granularity into DSR results&quot; means something like:

We&#039;re trying to find a way to stop most people leaving straight 5s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m assuming that &#8220;definite plan to introduce more granularity into DSR results&#8221; means something like:</p>
<p>We&#8217;re trying to find a way to stop most people leaving straight 5s.</p>
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		<title>By: Josordoni</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-town-hall-its-all-about-the-feedback.html#comment-36668</link>
		<dc:creator>Josordoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is a definite plan to introduce more granularity into DSR results&quot;

wassat mean??

Is granularity another Simpneologism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is a definite plan to introduce more granularity into DSR results&#8221;</p>
<p>wassat mean??</p>
<p>Is granularity another Simpneologism?</p>
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