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		<title>By: Super Max</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-37378</link>
		<dc:creator>Super Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#44 i really can&#039;t be bothered watching a 3 minute+ youtube video, can you say in less than 100 words what your point is please.</description>
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		<title>By: Anon0709</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-37376</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon0709</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lorrie Norrington: deadbeat bidder, policy breaking ebay exec seller exposed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_ARc6rWToE

cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lorrie Norrington: deadbeat bidder, policy breaking ebay exec seller exposed</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_ARc6rWToE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_ARc6rWToE</a></p>
<p>cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Disgruntled Ebay Powerseller</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36831</link>
		<dc:creator>Disgruntled Ebay Powerseller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ebay is causing sellers to leave in droves, with the new policy changes and tens of thousands of sellers and buyers are irate. The recent changes are just plain idiotic. Sellers can no longer leave negative or neutral feedback, even if a buyer bids, wins your item, ignores your emails and doesn&#039;t pay. What right do they have to leave any feedback, if no transaction has even taken place? We have sellers, bidding on competitors items and ruining their feedback, just to get a boost, on their own items. 

Ebay also went in and retroactively turned all neutrals, into negatives, based on a assumption. Neutral, means just that. How can ebay change the meaning of a word, to mean something else? They started giving new discounts to people with good ratings, but they knock them down first, with the neutral change, so that many can&#039;t even meet the requirements, for the discount. 

This is not the worst of it. We have thousands and thousands of sellers, who have closed their stores and we KNOW that the listing count should be going down. But, we have uncovered the source of the raised listing counts and this is how ebay is throwing off the boycott, so investors don&#039;t hear the &quot;Noise&quot; as John Donahoe call it. I can&#039;t see it being anything, but fraud. 

The seller BUY or Buy.com was taken on by ebay, right at the time ebay KNEW they were going to lose sellers. They are using buy.com, to pad the listings, to make it look like the count is up, when it really isn&#039;t. We have found thousands upon thousands of fake listings, that have no description and you can&#039;t even bid on them. I personally found them ending tens of thousands of listings early, saying they are no longer available for sale and then immediately relisting them. Most likely to keep the sell through rate up, which was dwindling and then relisting them again, to up the listing count 2 fold. Buy.com, doesn&#039;t pay listing fees, so these millions of listings, are not bringing in revenue. Their sell through rate is around 5%, when I last heard, so the listings themselves aren&#039;t bringing in much either. 

If Buy.com&#039;s millions of listings were removed from the count, it would be millions less and shareholders would be wondering what is going on. They wouldn&#039;t have to do much searching because the word is finally getting out. Isn&#039;t this making the stockholders think that listings are up, when they really aren&#039;t? We have all the proof documented. I even have it documented of when I was talking to Ebay Live Help and asking them about all the ads, being ended early and it immediately stopped, when they found out that we knew about it. 

We just feel that you should know what&#039;s going on and ebay is doing their best, to hide it. We can see what the funds are losing, by going to the following link and just think it is awful, the amounts of money people are losing. We understand a lot of funds are holding on, hoping it will go back up with the new changes, but we don&#039;t see it getting better and just feel that you have a right, to know. 

You can go here and check out the article, from the Wall Street Journal and you will see that the page takes forever to load, because there are so many complaints about ebay and their new policies. 

http://blogs.wsj.com/biztech/2008/06/24/ebay-angers-sellers-pleases-buyers/ 

You can also go to ebays own feedback message board to find thousands upon thousands of boycotters and sellers who are now getting ripped off from the changes. There are even loads and loads of sellers, who have been put out of business, overnight: http://forums.ebay.com/db2/forum.jspa?forumID=113 

Have you seen any of the videos, taken from Ebay Live 2008? Well, have a look: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHY0r3Sn9rc 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBX4vRjPHXM 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cro1Gp5dTVA 

Then you have this, the interview on talk radio, where the screaming guy in the first video, calls in: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/fruity 

And you can&#039;t forget the NEW buyers that are coming on to ebay, taking advantage of the new policies. They are all over the place. Before we had a way, when it was a fair playing field, to neg non paying bidders or bidders who do a chargeback and don&#039;t send the item back or they send a box of rocks, instead of the item or they just plain say &quot;I didn&#039;t get it&quot;. It&#039;s really gotten out of hand. I apologize for the content in these videos, but it is the only way to show what is happening: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ9D4qwiXcE 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub1xhxQU19w 

Thank you for reading and we hope you at least try to contact ebay, on the padding of FREE listings. 

Tracy Fair and thousands of other ebay members</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ebay is causing sellers to leave in droves, with the new policy changes and tens of thousands of sellers and buyers are irate. The recent changes are just plain idiotic. Sellers can no longer leave negative or neutral feedback, even if a buyer bids, wins your item, ignores your emails and doesn&#8217;t pay. What right do they have to leave any feedback, if no transaction has even taken place? We have sellers, bidding on competitors items and ruining their feedback, just to get a boost, on their own items. </p>
<p>Ebay also went in and retroactively turned all neutrals, into negatives, based on a assumption. Neutral, means just that. How can ebay change the meaning of a word, to mean something else? They started giving new discounts to people with good ratings, but they knock them down first, with the neutral change, so that many can&#8217;t even meet the requirements, for the discount. </p>
<p>This is not the worst of it. We have thousands and thousands of sellers, who have closed their stores and we KNOW that the listing count should be going down. But, we have uncovered the source of the raised listing counts and this is how ebay is throwing off the boycott, so investors don&#8217;t hear the &#8220;Noise&#8221; as John Donahoe call it. I can&#8217;t see it being anything, but fraud. </p>
<p>The seller BUY or Buy.com was taken on by ebay, right at the time ebay KNEW they were going to lose sellers. They are using buy.com, to pad the listings, to make it look like the count is up, when it really isn&#8217;t. We have found thousands upon thousands of fake listings, that have no description and you can&#8217;t even bid on them. I personally found them ending tens of thousands of listings early, saying they are no longer available for sale and then immediately relisting them. Most likely to keep the sell through rate up, which was dwindling and then relisting them again, to up the listing count 2 fold. Buy.com, doesn&#8217;t pay listing fees, so these millions of listings, are not bringing in revenue. Their sell through rate is around 5%, when I last heard, so the listings themselves aren&#8217;t bringing in much either. </p>
<p>If Buy.com&#8217;s millions of listings were removed from the count, it would be millions less and shareholders would be wondering what is going on. They wouldn&#8217;t have to do much searching because the word is finally getting out. Isn&#8217;t this making the stockholders think that listings are up, when they really aren&#8217;t? We have all the proof documented. I even have it documented of when I was talking to Ebay Live Help and asking them about all the ads, being ended early and it immediately stopped, when they found out that we knew about it. </p>
<p>We just feel that you should know what&#8217;s going on and ebay is doing their best, to hide it. We can see what the funds are losing, by going to the following link and just think it is awful, the amounts of money people are losing. We understand a lot of funds are holding on, hoping it will go back up with the new changes, but we don&#8217;t see it getting better and just feel that you have a right, to know. </p>
<p>You can go here and check out the article, from the Wall Street Journal and you will see that the page takes forever to load, because there are so many complaints about ebay and their new policies. </p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/biztech/2008/06/24/ebay-angers-sellers-pleases-buyers/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.wsj.com/biztech/2008/06/24/ebay-angers-sellers-pleases-buyers/</a> </p>
<p>You can also go to ebays own feedback message board to find thousands upon thousands of boycotters and sellers who are now getting ripped off from the changes. There are even loads and loads of sellers, who have been put out of business, overnight: <a href="http://forums.ebay.com/db2/forum.jspa?forumID=113" rel="nofollow">http://forums.ebay.com/db2/forum.jspa?forumID=113</a> </p>
<p>Have you seen any of the videos, taken from Ebay Live 2008? Well, have a look: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHY0r3Sn9rc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHY0r3Sn9rc</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBX4vRjPHXM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBX4vRjPHXM</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cro1Gp5dTVA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cro1Gp5dTVA</a> </p>
<p>Then you have this, the interview on talk radio, where the screaming guy in the first video, calls in: <a href="http://www.blogtalkradio.com/fruity" rel="nofollow">http://www.blogtalkradio.com/fruity</a> </p>
<p>And you can&#8217;t forget the NEW buyers that are coming on to ebay, taking advantage of the new policies. They are all over the place. Before we had a way, when it was a fair playing field, to neg non paying bidders or bidders who do a chargeback and don&#8217;t send the item back or they send a box of rocks, instead of the item or they just plain say &#8220;I didn&#8217;t get it&#8221;. It&#8217;s really gotten out of hand. I apologize for the content in these videos, but it is the only way to show what is happening: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ9D4qwiXcE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ9D4qwiXcE</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub1xhxQU19w" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub1xhxQU19w</a> </p>
<p>Thank you for reading and we hope you at least try to contact ebay, on the padding of FREE listings. </p>
<p>Tracy Fair and thousands of other ebay members</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Bailey</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36743</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lilac Tree, in context, it wasn&#039;t: it was heart-felt. I wish I&#039;d thought to film it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lilac Tree, in context, it wasn&#8217;t: it was heart-felt. I wish I&#8217;d thought to film it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lilac Tree</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36741</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilac Tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œpeople are working their backsides off to make you successfulâ€.

WTF ??? 

How patronising is that ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œpeople are working their backsides off to make you successfulâ€.</p>
<p>WTF ??? </p>
<p>How patronising is that ??</p>
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		<title>By: Savvy Paul</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36739</link>
		<dc:creator>Savvy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eBay are clearly going through some growing pains, and that&#039;s never easy to manage. However, making emotional pleas asking sellers not to be emotional, just isn&#039;t going to cut the mustard. Sellers get emotional when changes are made without consultation or transparency of where the changes are leading. The financial markets don&#039;t like nasty surprises - sellers are no different.

If eBay want to get disgruntled sellers back on board, they need to articulate their vision of where the site / venue is going and what that will mean for different types of sellers. Some sellers will like it, others won&#039;t - but you can then make rational decisions, either way. 

eBay secured it&#039;s market domination with a powerful vision of accessibility to market for small sellers combined with a sense of community. Now that vision needs to develop to incorporate new circumstances and business goals. If it doesn&#039;t, then eBay will, (however slowly), go into decline.

Several posters have said that they will continue to trade with eBay &#039;just because it&#039;s profitable&#039;. That&#039;s fair enough as a personal choice - but there&#039;s a big difference between trading &#039;because I have to&#039; and because it&#039;s &#039;a great place to be&#039;. Like it or not, emotional attachment with buyers and users (in this case, sellers) is a key objective for any business, because it keeps them coming back to you as their first choice. 

Many small sellers are now putting much greater effort into developing their own websites. If the &#039;services to small sellers / niche markets&#039; business is still an area that eBay want to be a big player in, they have to act more coherently to retain and grow existing sellers.

Currently, there are several areas of eBay that I really like, and a roughly equal amount of things that I dislike - putting all my eggs in the eBay basket would be a very risky (and less profitable) strategy. A few years ago I might have felt differently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eBay are clearly going through some growing pains, and that&#8217;s never easy to manage. However, making emotional pleas asking sellers not to be emotional, just isn&#8217;t going to cut the mustard. Sellers get emotional when changes are made without consultation or transparency of where the changes are leading. The financial markets don&#8217;t like nasty surprises &#8211; sellers are no different.</p>
<p>If eBay want to get disgruntled sellers back on board, they need to articulate their vision of where the site / venue is going and what that will mean for different types of sellers. Some sellers will like it, others won&#8217;t &#8211; but you can then make rational decisions, either way. </p>
<p>eBay secured it&#8217;s market domination with a powerful vision of accessibility to market for small sellers combined with a sense of community. Now that vision needs to develop to incorporate new circumstances and business goals. If it doesn&#8217;t, then eBay will, (however slowly), go into decline.</p>
<p>Several posters have said that they will continue to trade with eBay &#8216;just because it&#8217;s profitable&#8217;. That&#8217;s fair enough as a personal choice &#8211; but there&#8217;s a big difference between trading &#8216;because I have to&#8217; and because it&#8217;s &#8216;a great place to be&#8217;. Like it or not, emotional attachment with buyers and users (in this case, sellers) is a key objective for any business, because it keeps them coming back to you as their first choice. </p>
<p>Many small sellers are now putting much greater effort into developing their own websites. If the &#8217;services to small sellers / niche markets&#8217; business is still an area that eBay want to be a big player in, they have to act more coherently to retain and grow existing sellers.</p>
<p>Currently, there are several areas of eBay that I really like, and a roughly equal amount of things that I dislike &#8211; putting all my eggs in the eBay basket would be a very risky (and less profitable) strategy. A few years ago I might have felt differently.</p>
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		<title>By: Josordoni</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36738</link>
		<dc:creator>Josordoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry....

&quot;literally alienating Buyers in their tens of thousands.&quot;

how do you know that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;literally alienating Buyers in their tens of thousands.&#8221;</p>
<p>how do you know that?</p>
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		<title>By: pHilip muld</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36737</link>
		<dc:creator>pHilip muld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Words are cheap. Emotion even cheaper.
By your actions  by ye judged.
Ebay&#039;s actions over the past six months indicate a company desiring change,but not having a Real clue as to the results of those changes,
Amatuerish,Unprofessional,and to some extent  slightly barmy.
A Single Proof?  
I give thee &#039;New Search&#039;. The latest staggeringly lame brained idiocy,that is literally alienating Buyers in their tens of thousands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Words are cheap. Emotion even cheaper.<br />
By your actions  by ye judged.<br />
Ebay&#8217;s actions over the past six months indicate a company desiring change,but not having a Real clue as to the results of those changes,<br />
Amatuerish,Unprofessional,and to some extent  slightly barmy.<br />
A Single Proof?<br />
I give thee &#8216;New Search&#8217;. The latest staggeringly lame brained idiocy,that is literally alienating Buyers in their tens of thousands.</p>
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		<title>By: Josordoni</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36734</link>
		<dc:creator>Josordoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@34

No, I expect not Mark.  

But I can only comment on how I feel, rather than other people&#039;s feelings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@34</p>
<p>No, I expect not Mark.  </p>
<p>But I can only comment on how I feel, rather than other people&#8217;s feelings.</p>
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		<title>By: angryjim</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36730</link>
		<dc:creator>angryjim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Queen Norrington laments that eBay â€œpeople are working their backsides off to make you [sellers] successfulâ€.  :razz: 
If their actions I over the past 6 months are any indication of what they are capable of who needs their damn help.  
Good eBay sellers work their backsides off as well and don&#039;t need the additional burden of a sales venue that is constantly making them jump through more and more hoops.  
Unless eBay comes to its senses very soon (unlikely) the damage they have created since the start of this year will be permanent, with good sellers leaving the site over issues of buyer fraud, best match, paypal, lopsided feedback ....etc. etc. etc.
eBay managment appears to exist in a different world than that of its paying customer base.  Who wants to deal with company that makes very damaging policy changes on the fly and then gives vague promises about remedying the negative consequences of these changes?  Only a company run by cretins and dunderheads operates like this.
eBay live 2008 must have been somewhat of an eye opener for the intellectually challenged lackeys that currently compose upper eBay managment.  Being of a cynical nature I truly doubt whether any of them can actually fully appreciate or care about the distrust and anger they have caused sellers to feel.  To hell with all of them - my last listings ended well in advance of May 19 and I doubt if I will ever sell on eBay again. :mad:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Queen Norrington laments that eBay â€œpeople are working their backsides off to make you [sellers] successfulâ€.  <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':razz:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
If their actions I over the past 6 months are any indication of what they are capable of who needs their damn help.<br />
Good eBay sellers work their backsides off as well and don&#8217;t need the additional burden of a sales venue that is constantly making them jump through more and more hoops.<br />
Unless eBay comes to its senses very soon (unlikely) the damage they have created since the start of this year will be permanent, with good sellers leaving the site over issues of buyer fraud, best match, paypal, lopsided feedback &#8230;.etc. etc. etc.<br />
eBay managment appears to exist in a different world than that of its paying customer base.  Who wants to deal with company that makes very damaging policy changes on the fly and then gives vague promises about remedying the negative consequences of these changes?  Only a company run by cretins and dunderheads operates like this.<br />
eBay live 2008 must have been somewhat of an eye opener for the intellectually challenged lackeys that currently compose upper eBay managment.  Being of a cynical nature I truly doubt whether any of them can actually fully appreciate or care about the distrust and anger they have caused sellers to feel.  To hell with all of them &#8211; my last listings ended well in advance of May 19 and I doubt if I will ever sell on eBay again. <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif' alt=':mad:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Road_Hog</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36728</link>
		<dc:creator>Road_Hog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Lorrie Norrington talked about how it feels to read blog posts every day that rip your company to shreds&quot;

Oh diddums, do people have something to say that you don&#039;t like hearing?

The solution is in your own hands, fix it.

You can start by doing something about the scammers first, who even have the cheek to get feedback removed. You can clear the buyers who are dishonest and abusing the system next. Then put it back to a level playing field where there is a respect for both buyers and sellers and finally get some CS staff with direct dial and who have the authority to rectify problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lorrie Norrington talked about how it feels to read blog posts every day that rip your company to shreds&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh diddums, do people have something to say that you don&#8217;t like hearing?</p>
<p>The solution is in your own hands, fix it.</p>
<p>You can start by doing something about the scammers first, who even have the cheek to get feedback removed. You can clear the buyers who are dishonest and abusing the system next. Then put it back to a level playing field where there is a respect for both buyers and sellers and finally get some CS staff with direct dial and who have the authority to rectify problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Classic</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36727</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Classic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@30

Do you think that someone that has lost their account by being a dolphin would have the same opinion as yourself?


Mark :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@30</p>
<p>Do you think that someone that has lost their account by being a dolphin would have the same opinion as yourself?</p>
<p>Mark <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Josordoni</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36726</link>
		<dc:creator>Josordoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#31

There sure are!

But most of them have just got their heads down and are listing and selling and not &lt;strike&gt;wasting&lt;/strike&gt; spending their time on eBay forums and noticeboard... or so says my old man... :-D</description>
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<p>There sure are!</p>
<p>But most of them have just got their heads down and are listing and selling and not <strike>wasting</strike> spending their time on eBay forums and noticeboard&#8230; or so says my old man&#8230; <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bonni</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36723</link>
		<dc:creator>bonni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They want to prove it. Okay. Let them prove it. I remain unconvinced. If they can prove it, let them. I&#039;m happy to sit over here with some popcorn and watch it all go down. If they can really turn it around, I&#039;ll be mightily impressed, I&#039;ll say that much...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They want to prove it. Okay. Let them prove it. I remain unconvinced. If they can prove it, let them. I&#8217;m happy to sit over here with some popcorn and watch it all go down. If they can really turn it around, I&#8217;ll be mightily impressed, I&#8217;ll say that much&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Larrylackpants</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36722</link>
		<dc:creator>Larrylackpants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>30#  :wink:  I hope there are a lot more like-minded folk out there.  :cool:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>30#  <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' />   I hope there are a lot more like-minded folk out there.  <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt=':cool:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Josordoni</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36721</link>
		<dc:creator>Josordoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not miserable and I don&#039;t want to be elsewhere.

I still like eBay.

I don&#039;t have any axe to grind.

I haven&#039;t had any problems yet.

My customers still seem happy.

I understand the logic behind the decisions, even if the way they have put them into place is perhaps a bit rough round the edges.

I still make money (due as much to buying as it is to selling don&#039;t forget, so not always eBay&#039;s responsibility)

I do not feel that I have been singled out for any sort of unfair actions.

I do not feel that eBay are the devil&#039;s spawn.

I do not think I am alone....

Enough reasons?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not miserable and I don&#8217;t want to be elsewhere.</p>
<p>I still like eBay.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have any axe to grind.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t had any problems yet.</p>
<p>My customers still seem happy.</p>
<p>I understand the logic behind the decisions, even if the way they have put them into place is perhaps a bit rough round the edges.</p>
<p>I still make money (due as much to buying as it is to selling don&#8217;t forget, so not always eBay&#8217;s responsibility)</p>
<p>I do not feel that I have been singled out for any sort of unfair actions.</p>
<p>I do not feel that eBay are the devil&#8217;s spawn.</p>
<p>I do not think I am alone&#8230;.</p>
<p>Enough reasons?</p>
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		<title>By: Larrylackpants</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36719</link>
		<dc:creator>Larrylackpants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Lorrie and her staff are being upset at reading blogs that tear ebay to shreds? 

Come on girls and boys of ebay &quot;management&quot;, you know it&#039;s not unfounded and baseless!  

When these changes were being put forward for suggestion, ebay MUST have known there would be some kind of backlash?!  To think not means the powers that be have no respect or idea about their customer base (the sellers, not the buyers) and thus have no business in being allowed to make such poor decisions.

The anger on boards around the world is almost edible and only getting thicker and more lumpy the more ebay avoid seller needs for fairness and clarity.

Looking at the posts on here and other sites I can see that ebay WILL be around for a long time yet but not becuase it&#039;s the venue of choice but because sellers are either trapped there or are willing to swallow the ebay potion, it&#039;s bitterness diluted with other venue sales.

Is this really the way ahead for ebay?  Miserable sellers with axes to grind and a massive feeling that we would ALL rather be elsewhere?  Well, as long as the money keeps coming in and those nastly blogs remain unseen by Lorrie and her team, it looks like it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Lorrie and her staff are being upset at reading blogs that tear ebay to shreds? </p>
<p>Come on girls and boys of ebay &#8220;management&#8221;, you know it&#8217;s not unfounded and baseless!  </p>
<p>When these changes were being put forward for suggestion, ebay MUST have known there would be some kind of backlash?!  To think not means the powers that be have no respect or idea about their customer base (the sellers, not the buyers) and thus have no business in being allowed to make such poor decisions.</p>
<p>The anger on boards around the world is almost edible and only getting thicker and more lumpy the more ebay avoid seller needs for fairness and clarity.</p>
<p>Looking at the posts on here and other sites I can see that ebay WILL be around for a long time yet but not becuase it&#8217;s the venue of choice but because sellers are either trapped there or are willing to swallow the ebay potion, it&#8217;s bitterness diluted with other venue sales.</p>
<p>Is this really the way ahead for ebay?  Miserable sellers with axes to grind and a massive feeling that we would ALL rather be elsewhere?  Well, as long as the money keeps coming in and those nastly blogs remain unseen by Lorrie and her team, it looks like it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Mechelle</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36715</link>
		<dc:creator>Mechelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am stunned that they would look at a room full of sellers and plead for their patience and ask them to take a leap of faith, and then follow up with we really don&#039;t know what we are doing! Hello-  we can&#039;t all be taking blind faith leaps and expect anyone of us to land unscathed on the other side.  

eBay I can sympathize with the difficulty of reading the blogs with people tearing your company apart knowing you are working your tail off.  I&#039;ve experienced similar, but to a much greater degree of degradation.   See your customers are upset, because of actions you have taken that hurt them- eBay has earned the emotions that so many of us feel- the abuse, betrayal, disregard, and disrespect of your treatment of your customers is what has caused the extreme negativity, 

I do know what it is like to work my A** off averaging 4 hrs of sleep a night for over a year, completely abandoning my family while I spend every waking hour working on my store- designing it, answering emails, listing, packaging, purchasing over and over day after day working to meet my goals- do what I need to do to be successful.  eBay was my tool- I follow the rules and work my a** off.  

One day I get this email from the service provider that I purchase services from and am shocked and appalled and hurt to see their accusing me - their own customer- of being a thief, a con, and a bad seller who if given a negative gives one to my customer in revenge.  Due to their opinion of me they were instituting policies to protect my customers from their customers- punishments involving money holds, reduced visibility, account limitations, and possibly suspension.  Shortly after reading this insult I see that this isn&#039;t a notice - accusations from eBay to me their customer- oh no they told the world that I am trash and not to be trusted.  

What did I do to deserve this treatment, this new reputation?  I paid my fees, followed the rulers, earned powerseller status in 4 months - silver in 5, and I made eBay look good because I sell on their site.  This was the thanks I got- this is their idea of customer appreciation - and they want me to sympathize with them because of how hard they work- yeah!  

You know years back now when long distance wasn&#039;t free I racked up 3 to 400 dollar bills every month talking to my family.  That is pretty hefty bill for a residential account.  One day I woke up to find my phone had been shut off.  After learning from the phone company that I was short on my payment in the sum of $1.57 - no freaking joke-and they wanted me to pay 350 deposit to restore service. I told them their services were no longer useful and I would no longer be purchasing from them. It has been 9 or 10 years since and I have never used them again- they still call - just 2 weeks ago I had to tell the solicitor that I would never ever use their service again and why.

I&#039;m known to occasionally forget to pay a bill or two and sometimes this leads to service interruption, and often the provider wants to insist on a deposit and you know what I just tell them no, and if they don&#039;t like it I&#039;ll use someone else.

This is the difference between a competitive market and a monopoly.  The obvious reason a lot of us are still being used by eBay is the unfortunately reality that though there are other venues and yes a lot of us are spreading our wings, it is impossible for us to walk away as I can the phone company or the cable company.  I have a massive amount of inventory and bills to pay and a family to help support I don&#039;t have the luxury (most people who sell on eBay don&#039;t) of just telling them to kiss of and leave- well I can tell them to kiss of but I can&#039;t just leave.  Does that mean I don&#039;t want to?  no!  Does that mean I trust or should trust eBay? No!  What it means is I am forced to maintain a relationship with a company that not only thinks I am trash and a danger to the marketplace but also spreads the rumor globally.

That is why I stay at eBay at the present time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am stunned that they would look at a room full of sellers and plead for their patience and ask them to take a leap of faith, and then follow up with we really don&#8217;t know what we are doing! Hello-  we can&#8217;t all be taking blind faith leaps and expect anyone of us to land unscathed on the other side.  </p>
<p>eBay I can sympathize with the difficulty of reading the blogs with people tearing your company apart knowing you are working your tail off.  I&#8217;ve experienced similar, but to a much greater degree of degradation.   See your customers are upset, because of actions you have taken that hurt them- eBay has earned the emotions that so many of us feel- the abuse, betrayal, disregard, and disrespect of your treatment of your customers is what has caused the extreme negativity, </p>
<p>I do know what it is like to work my A** off averaging 4 hrs of sleep a night for over a year, completely abandoning my family while I spend every waking hour working on my store- designing it, answering emails, listing, packaging, purchasing over and over day after day working to meet my goals- do what I need to do to be successful.  eBay was my tool- I follow the rules and work my a** off.  </p>
<p>One day I get this email from the service provider that I purchase services from and am shocked and appalled and hurt to see their accusing me &#8211; their own customer- of being a thief, a con, and a bad seller who if given a negative gives one to my customer in revenge.  Due to their opinion of me they were instituting policies to protect my customers from their customers- punishments involving money holds, reduced visibility, account limitations, and possibly suspension.  Shortly after reading this insult I see that this isn&#8217;t a notice &#8211; accusations from eBay to me their customer- oh no they told the world that I am trash and not to be trusted.  </p>
<p>What did I do to deserve this treatment, this new reputation?  I paid my fees, followed the rulers, earned powerseller status in 4 months &#8211; silver in 5, and I made eBay look good because I sell on their site.  This was the thanks I got- this is their idea of customer appreciation &#8211; and they want me to sympathize with them because of how hard they work- yeah!  </p>
<p>You know years back now when long distance wasn&#8217;t free I racked up 3 to 400 dollar bills every month talking to my family.  That is pretty hefty bill for a residential account.  One day I woke up to find my phone had been shut off.  After learning from the phone company that I was short on my payment in the sum of $1.57 &#8211; no freaking joke-and they wanted me to pay 350 deposit to restore service. I told them their services were no longer useful and I would no longer be purchasing from them. It has been 9 or 10 years since and I have never used them again- they still call &#8211; just 2 weeks ago I had to tell the solicitor that I would never ever use their service again and why.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m known to occasionally forget to pay a bill or two and sometimes this leads to service interruption, and often the provider wants to insist on a deposit and you know what I just tell them no, and if they don&#8217;t like it I&#8217;ll use someone else.</p>
<p>This is the difference between a competitive market and a monopoly.  The obvious reason a lot of us are still being used by eBay is the unfortunately reality that though there are other venues and yes a lot of us are spreading our wings, it is impossible for us to walk away as I can the phone company or the cable company.  I have a massive amount of inventory and bills to pay and a family to help support I don&#8217;t have the luxury (most people who sell on eBay don&#8217;t) of just telling them to kiss of and leave- well I can tell them to kiss of but I can&#8217;t just leave.  Does that mean I don&#8217;t want to?  no!  Does that mean I trust or should trust eBay? No!  What it means is I am forced to maintain a relationship with a company that not only thinks I am trash and a danger to the marketplace but also spreads the rumor globally.</p>
<p>That is why I stay at eBay at the present time</p>
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		<title>By: CashBackAtEbay.com</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36714</link>
		<dc:creator>CashBackAtEbay.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very funny that Lorrie Norrington believes eBay â€œpeople are working their backsides off to make you [sellers] successfulâ€. 

NO... eBay is giving sellers their backsides, too. 

eBay stock is down to $27.73 so investors are giving eBay their backsides!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very funny that Lorrie Norrington believes eBay â€œpeople are working their backsides off to make you [sellers] successfulâ€. </p>
<p>NO&#8230; eBay is giving sellers their backsides, too. </p>
<p>eBay stock is down to $27.73 so investors are giving eBay their backsides!</p>
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		<title>By: Board_Surfer</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36712</link>
		<dc:creator>Board_Surfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;we should support eBay and all row in the same direction&quot;

Which would be a darn sight easier if we had any kind of clue as to which way ebay was rowing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;we should support eBay and all row in the same direction&#8221;</p>
<p>Which would be a darn sight easier if we had any kind of clue as to which way ebay was rowing!</p>
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		<title>By: BILLSTUFF</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36711</link>
		<dc:creator>BILLSTUFF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello from the States.  Yes, I agree with your point we should support eBay and all row in the same direction.  I have been a full time seller on eBay for over 10 years and on several occasions have officially lobbied for eBay both in my home state and in Washington D.C. before members of Congress.  eBay has given me the opportunity I always dreamed of to be self-employed and in charge of my own life.  However, two things about eBay that still havenâ€™t changed are their penchant for distilling the truth when it suits them, and their cavalier attitude towards how their continual changes affect sellers.  Iâ€™ll submit just two recent examples.  This week Yahoo News and the New York Times carried stories about how PayPal is now protecting U.S. sellers who ship internationally.  Well, it turns out weâ€™re only being protected if we ship Express Mail with tracking which costs the buyer three times as much as regular USPS First Class International.  My guess is that less than 5% of all shipments will therefore be protected.  But did the â€œnew managementâ€ at eBay point out that 95% of international shipments will therefore not be protected?  Of course not.  And how about this new policy that you canâ€™t have your email address on the item page?  I have over 13,000 listings that will have to be shut down and re-launched with an altered template.  Iâ€™ll spend at least 3 days doing that, and eBay gets a windfall on relisting fees.  The last time I had to do this was when eBay decided you could no longer say you accepted â€œcashâ€ in your listings.  Plus I recently spent several days creating a new About Me page that directs customers to my web site, only to find itâ€™s now a policy violation.  These are just a few reasons why I continue to be torn towards my appreciation and disappointment with eBay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello from the States.  Yes, I agree with your point we should support eBay and all row in the same direction.  I have been a full time seller on eBay for over 10 years and on several occasions have officially lobbied for eBay both in my home state and in Washington D.C. before members of Congress.  eBay has given me the opportunity I always dreamed of to be self-employed and in charge of my own life.  However, two things about eBay that still havenâ€™t changed are their penchant for distilling the truth when it suits them, and their cavalier attitude towards how their continual changes affect sellers.  Iâ€™ll submit just two recent examples.  This week Yahoo News and the New York Times carried stories about how PayPal is now protecting U.S. sellers who ship internationally.  Well, it turns out weâ€™re only being protected if we ship Express Mail with tracking which costs the buyer three times as much as regular USPS First Class International.  My guess is that less than 5% of all shipments will therefore be protected.  But did the â€œnew managementâ€ at eBay point out that 95% of international shipments will therefore not be protected?  Of course not.  And how about this new policy that you canâ€™t have your email address on the item page?  I have over 13,000 listings that will have to be shut down and re-launched with an altered template.  Iâ€™ll spend at least 3 days doing that, and eBay gets a windfall on relisting fees.  The last time I had to do this was when eBay decided you could no longer say you accepted â€œcashâ€ in your listings.  Plus I recently spent several days creating a new About Me page that directs customers to my web site, only to find itâ€™s now a policy violation.  These are just a few reasons why I continue to be torn towards my appreciation and disappointment with eBay.</p>
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		<title>By: northumbrian</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36710</link>
		<dc:creator>northumbrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>though I have to say
 the policy compliance thing seems to have been concocted by a lunatic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>though I have to say<br />
 the policy compliance thing seems to have been concocted by a lunatic</p>
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		<title>By: northumbrian</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36709</link>
		<dc:creator>northumbrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly Whirly

this is business, not a hobby or a religion
 its all about buying and selling
 if I want to be preached to, and loved, the local druid does it for nowt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly Whirly</p>
<p>this is business, not a hobby or a religion<br />
 its all about buying and selling<br />
 if I want to be preached to, and loved, the local druid does it for nowt</p>
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		<title>By: whirly</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36708</link>
		<dc:creator>whirly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 07:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;ask yourself why you continue to do business with a company you say you donâ€™t like, donâ€™t trust, donâ€™t believe in?&quot;  Money. 

I am in business to make money, eBay provides us as a company with outstanding traffic, the level of which easily out performs all the other platforms available to us that we use, however I do not have to like eBay or it&#039;s policy&#039;s or the way in which it treats me in order for me to keep giving them money because I get more back than I give, so I am glad to be back on eBay purely for financial reasons and nothing else.

If I want to fall in love I&#039;ll switch on GMTV and drool over Penny Smith, if I want to make money I&#039;ll fire up the Quattro and log into eBay, nowt will change until the traffic stops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;ask yourself why you continue to do business with a company you say you donâ€™t like, donâ€™t trust, donâ€™t believe in?&#8221;  Money. </p>
<p>I am in business to make money, eBay provides us as a company with outstanding traffic, the level of which easily out performs all the other platforms available to us that we use, however I do not have to like eBay or it&#8217;s policy&#8217;s or the way in which it treats me in order for me to keep giving them money because I get more back than I give, so I am glad to be back on eBay purely for financial reasons and nothing else.</p>
<p>If I want to fall in love I&#8217;ll switch on GMTV and drool over Penny Smith, if I want to make money I&#8217;ll fire up the Quattro and log into eBay, nowt will change until the traffic stops.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/06/live-day-three-lorrie-rocks.html#comment-36707</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 07:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your optimism... but, I just can&#039;t believe things are &quot;new and improved&quot; when they continue to do business the old way.   Rules are still rolled out at seemingly random times with little or no communication.  New features are full of glitches.  And they continue to tighten the control they have over sellers with no reciprocation in benefits.  It&#039;s the same stuff... so I don&#039;t believe Lorrie and Stephanie when they ask us to believe that it is a new day at eBay.

Why do I put effort into eBay?  I do continue to make some money... and I continue to motivate those customers to use my web site for future purchases.  I truly hope to ditch eBay soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your optimism&#8230; but, I just can&#8217;t believe things are &#8220;new and improved&#8221; when they continue to do business the old way.   Rules are still rolled out at seemingly random times with little or no communication.  New features are full of glitches.  And they continue to tighten the control they have over sellers with no reciprocation in benefits.  It&#8217;s the same stuff&#8230; so I don&#8217;t believe Lorrie and Stephanie when they ask us to believe that it is a new day at eBay.</p>
<p>Why do I put effort into eBay?  I do continue to make some money&#8230; and I continue to motivate those customers to use my web site for future purchases.  I truly hope to ditch eBay soon.</p>
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