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	<title>Comments on: eBay UK business sellers must accept returned goods</title>
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		<title>By: nzlotrstamps</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/04/ebay-uk-business-sellers-must-accept-returned-goods.html#comment-33846</link>
		<dc:creator>nzlotrstamps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve had our full contact details on our eBay &quot;About Me&quot; pages since 2000 and never had any problems with it. It&#039;s in graphic form so it can&#039;t be scrapped or purloined into any third party database.

As for the 7- or 14-day return policy, we&#039;ve had a 45-day &quot;no questions, right of return&quot; policy since 2001. It&#039;s only been used four or five times and mostly for &quot;unwanted&quot; gifts. Our items are mostly collectibles, so provided they are returned in their original packaging without damage, we are happy to accept returns. We simply split up the sets and recycle them as &quot;free&quot; gifts for our repeat or high value customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve had our full contact details on our eBay &#8220;About Me&#8221; pages since 2000 and never had any problems with it. It&#8217;s in graphic form so it can&#8217;t be scrapped or purloined into any third party database.</p>
<p>As for the 7- or 14-day return policy, we&#8217;ve had a 45-day &#8220;no questions, right of return&#8221; policy since 2001. It&#8217;s only been used four or five times and mostly for &#8220;unwanted&#8221; gifts. Our items are mostly collectibles, so provided they are returned in their original packaging without damage, we are happy to accept returns. We simply split up the sets and recycle them as &#8220;free&#8221; gifts for our repeat or high value customers.</p>
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		<title>By: Louise</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/04/ebay-uk-business-sellers-must-accept-returned-goods.html#comment-33759</link>
		<dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue Bailey Says: 

April 11th, 2008 at 7:13 pm 
Louise: I think if they just changed all â€œ7 days returnâ€ to â€œ14 days returnâ€, without sellersâ€™ approval, there would be a huge outcry that eBay were editing our T&amp;Cs without our permission.

By forcing me to change without my approval from 7 to 14 they already are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue Bailey Says: </p>
<p>April 11th, 2008 at 7:13 pm<br />
Louise: I think if they just changed all â€œ7 days returnâ€ to â€œ14 days returnâ€, without sellersâ€™ approval, there would be a huge outcry that eBay were editing our T&amp;Cs without our permission.</p>
<p>By forcing me to change without my approval from 7 to 14 they already are.</p>
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		<title>By: northumbrian</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/04/ebay-uk-business-sellers-must-accept-returned-goods.html#comment-33747</link>
		<dc:creator>northumbrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 05:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;â€œIâ€™ve worn this dress now / watched this DVDâ€ and want to return it because ebay say I can.

If you donâ€™t like it Iâ€™ll leave you neg feedback and there is nothing you can do about it.&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

must admit I have some concerns about this too

 cant remember the last time we had a return
 and we have always refunded without argument
so I dont think it will be a big problem in my categories,
 though in some others its bound to be a problem</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>â€œIâ€™ve worn this dress now / watched this DVDâ€ and want to return it because ebay say I can.</p>
<p>If you donâ€™t like it Iâ€™ll leave you neg feedback and there is nothing you can do about it.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>must admit I have some concerns about this too</p>
<p> cant remember the last time we had a return<br />
 and we have always refunded without argument<br />
so I dont think it will be a big problem in my categories,<br />
 though in some others its bound to be a problem</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/04/ebay-uk-business-sellers-must-accept-returned-goods.html#comment-33743</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many laws and regulations out there that protect us sellers too, Shame Ebay are not as pro-active in implementing and enforcing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many laws and regulations out there that protect us sellers too, Shame Ebay are not as pro-active in implementing and enforcing them.</p>
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		<title>By: Blighty</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/04/ebay-uk-business-sellers-must-accept-returned-goods.html#comment-33739</link>
		<dc:creator>Blighty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#039;ve worn this dress now / watched this DVD&quot; and want to return it because ebay say I can.

If you don&#039;t like it I&#039;ll leave you neg feedback and there is nothing you can do about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ve worn this dress now / watched this DVD&#8221; and want to return it because ebay say I can.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t like it I&#8217;ll leave you neg feedback and there is nothing you can do about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Bailey</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/04/ebay-uk-business-sellers-must-accept-returned-goods.html#comment-33737</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Louise: I think if they just changed all &quot;7 days return&quot; to &quot;14 days return&quot;, without sellers&#039; approval, there would be a huge outcry that eBay were editing our T&amp;Cs without our permission. Though it would be convenient in this instance, I don&#039;t think we want to send them the message that it&#039;s permissable to do that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Louise: I think if they just changed all &#8220;7 days return&#8221; to &#8220;14 days return&#8221;, without sellers&#8217; approval, there would be a huge outcry that eBay were editing our T&#038;Cs without our permission. Though it would be convenient in this instance, I don&#8217;t think we want to send them the message that it&#8217;s permissable to do that!</p>
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		<title>By: Store Your Stuff aka Jade</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/04/ebay-uk-business-sellers-must-accept-returned-goods.html#comment-33735</link>
		<dc:creator>Store Your Stuff aka Jade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like all the changes, once you give it 30 seconds to &quot;ferment&quot; in your thought process, you can see that it is a very positive move. Amazon insist on 30 days, so 14 days is still a way off that. Depending on your viewpoint, maybe they should have gone the whole hog and said 30 day return policy like the nearest competitor?

Incidentally I had a chat with my account manager yesterday and she was saying that even more changes are planned for   the next 6 months. She said that ebay would be hardly recognisable in 6 months time  :?: . They really feel like they have to come out fighting if they want to maintain the market share that they have. I wholeheartedly support them, it&#039;s time to end ebays shady, back street, out of a suitcase image that it has unfairly received. Most of the sellers are good decent people, these changes will make it VERY difficult for dodgy dealers to operate, so applause from us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like all the changes, once you give it 30 seconds to &#8220;ferment&#8221; in your thought process, you can see that it is a very positive move. Amazon insist on 30 days, so 14 days is still a way off that. Depending on your viewpoint, maybe they should have gone the whole hog and said 30 day return policy like the nearest competitor?</p>
<p>Incidentally I had a chat with my account manager yesterday and she was saying that even more changes are planned for   the next 6 months. She said that ebay would be hardly recognisable in 6 months time  <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_question.gif' alt=':?:' class='wp-smiley' />  . They really feel like they have to come out fighting if they want to maintain the market share that they have. I wholeheartedly support them, it&#8217;s time to end ebays shady, back street, out of a suitcase image that it has unfairly received. Most of the sellers are good decent people, these changes will make it VERY difficult for dodgy dealers to operate, so applause from us!</p>
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		<title>By: Josordoni</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/04/ebay-uk-business-sellers-must-accept-returned-goods.html#comment-33734</link>
		<dc:creator>Josordoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, I&#039;ve changed it in my template from now, but I&#039;m doing nothing until the day comes around.  Lots of eBay things happen between declaring something WILL happen and getting to the actual date it happens... I don&#039;t jump at anything anymore...

Louise, they may well take the option out, but with BINs still with possible short durations, they wouldn&#039;t do that until 1st May.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, I&#8217;ve changed it in my template from now, but I&#8217;m doing nothing until the day comes around.  Lots of eBay things happen between declaring something WILL happen and getting to the actual date it happens&#8230; I don&#8217;t jump at anything anymore&#8230;</p>
<p>Louise, they may well take the option out, but with BINs still with possible short durations, they wouldn&#8217;t do that until 1st May.</p>
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		<title>By: Louise</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/04/ebay-uk-business-sellers-must-accept-returned-goods.html#comment-33733</link>
		<dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they remove the 7 day option Sue there will be less need for a &quot;bulk edit option&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they remove the 7 day option Sue there will be less need for a &#8220;bulk edit option&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Bailey</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/04/ebay-uk-business-sellers-must-accept-returned-goods.html#comment-33732</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t start frantically pulling listings yet:
http://forums.ebay.co.uk/thread.jspa?threadID=1200206416&amp;start=6
&quot;there will be a bulk edit option&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t start frantically pulling listings yet:<br />
<a href="http://forums.ebay.co.uk/thread.jspa?threadID=1200206416&#038;start=6" rel="nofollow">http://forums.ebay.co.uk/thread.jspa?threadID=1200206416&#038;start=6</a><br />
&#8220;there will be a bulk edit option&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Louise</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/04/ebay-uk-business-sellers-must-accept-returned-goods.html#comment-33731</link>
		<dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t ebay just remove the 7 days option from the drop-down menu in the return section?  Default will then be 14 as they want, or sellers can select 30.
Saves everyone who has 7 from messing about changing everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t ebay just remove the 7 days option from the drop-down menu in the return section?  Default will then be 14 as they want, or sellers can select 30.<br />
Saves everyone who has 7 from messing about changing everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Josordoni</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/04/ebay-uk-business-sellers-must-accept-returned-goods.html#comment-33730</link>
		<dc:creator>Josordoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not for me, I suppose I&#039;ve had maybe 4 or 5 in the 6 years I have been trading on eBay...

But for a lot of people buying it is a problem if the seller flatly refuses to allow refunds for any reason at all.  I can understand why they have decided to introduce their own rules.  Don&#039;t forget these are eBay rules, not DSR rules....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not for me, I suppose I&#8217;ve had maybe 4 or 5 in the 6 years I have been trading on eBay&#8230;</p>
<p>But for a lot of people buying it is a problem if the seller flatly refuses to allow refunds for any reason at all.  I can understand why they have decided to introduce their own rules.  Don&#8217;t forget these are eBay rules, not DSR rules&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Biggles</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/04/ebay-uk-business-sellers-must-accept-returned-goods.html#comment-33729</link>
		<dc:creator>Biggles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not bothered by these changes, as I dont get many returns, and if I had a request for one well after the stated 
time I&#039;d still honour it. I&#039;v had like 5 in the last couple years.

I dont like the way eBay are sticking their oar in. All the requirements are covered by legislation, we dont need eBay parsing the legal requirements through eBay Towers for their spin.

Are returns such a big problem???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not bothered by these changes, as I dont get many returns, and if I had a request for one well after the stated<br />
time I&#8217;d still honour it. I&#8217;v had like 5 in the last couple years.</p>
<p>I dont like the way eBay are sticking their oar in. All the requirements are covered by legislation, we dont need eBay parsing the legal requirements through eBay Towers for their spin.</p>
<p>Are returns such a big problem???</p>
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		<title>By: Josordoni</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/04/ebay-uk-business-sellers-must-accept-returned-goods.html#comment-33725</link>
		<dc:creator>Josordoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, I am sure I have seen it somewhere before - possibly in a pink posting on one or other of the boards.  I know that there was a judgement made (last year I think) that it would only apply to BINs or SILs.  Personally, I&#039;ve just changed my templates globally to make returns 14 days including auctions.  

If someone wants to return, then they can as far as I am concerned. I want a happy returning buyer not someone feeling aggrieved and disappointed for whatever reason....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, I am sure I have seen it somewhere before &#8211; possibly in a pink posting on one or other of the boards.  I know that there was a judgement made (last year I think) that it would only apply to BINs or SILs.  Personally, I&#8217;ve just changed my templates globally to make returns 14 days including auctions.  </p>
<p>If someone wants to return, then they can as far as I am concerned. I want a happy returning buyer not someone feeling aggrieved and disappointed for whatever reason&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve H</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/04/ebay-uk-business-sellers-must-accept-returned-goods.html#comment-33724</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice on the page linked to from the announcement it specifically states:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;The UK Distance Selling Regulations do not apply to eBay auction format listings on eBay.co.uk, and do not apply to all types of items.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Is this the first time eBay have actually taken this stance publically?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice on the page linked to from the announcement it specifically states:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;The UK Distance Selling Regulations do not apply to eBay auction format listings on eBay.co.uk, and do not apply to all types of items.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Is this the first time eBay have actually taken this stance publically?</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Bailey</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/04/ebay-uk-business-sellers-must-accept-returned-goods.html#comment-33723</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lynne: yes, more notice would have been nice.  :cry: 

Biggles: just to clarify for everyone else, business to business transactions are not covered by the DSR. However, there is nothing in eBay&#039;s announcement that exempts them from eBay&#039;s rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lynne: yes, more notice would have been nice.  <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif' alt=':cry:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Biggles: just to clarify for everyone else, business to business transactions are not covered by the DSR. However, there is nothing in eBay&#8217;s announcement that exempts them from eBay&#8217;s rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Biggles</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/04/ebay-uk-business-sellers-must-accept-returned-goods.html#comment-33722</link>
		<dc:creator>Biggles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about business to business transactions on ebay?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about business to business transactions on ebay?</p>
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		<title>By: Josordoni</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/04/ebay-uk-business-sellers-must-accept-returned-goods.html#comment-33721</link>
		<dc:creator>Josordoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame they couldn&#039;t have given at least a 30 day notice though, as then I could just change the details straight away on new listings rather than having to go in and change all the shop items.  

Someone hasn&#039;t got a lot of common sense in the timing of these things...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame they couldn&#8217;t have given at least a 30 day notice though, as then I could just change the details straight away on new listings rather than having to go in and change all the shop items.  </p>
<p>Someone hasn&#8217;t got a lot of common sense in the timing of these things&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: whirly</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/04/ebay-uk-business-sellers-must-accept-returned-goods.html#comment-33718</link>
		<dc:creator>whirly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another positive move, has someone doped the coffee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another positive move, has someone doped the coffee.</p>
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		<title>By: northumbrian</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/04/ebay-uk-business-sellers-must-accept-returned-goods.html#comment-33716</link>
		<dc:creator>northumbrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>though I dont agree with the our address being made so available to everyone and anyone,

we deal in some very valuable items, we dont need to tell everyone on the planet where we are, if only buyers know who and where we are at least  we have a starting point if we have a problem</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>though I dont agree with the our address being made so available to everyone and anyone,</p>
<p>we deal in some very valuable items, we dont need to tell everyone on the planet where we are, if only buyers know who and where we are at least  we have a starting point if we have a problem</p>
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		<title>By: northumbrian</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/04/ebay-uk-business-sellers-must-accept-returned-goods.html#comment-33715</link>
		<dc:creator>northumbrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great news, 

I am tired of buyers assuming all sellers are shady back street spivs,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great news, </p>
<p>I am tired of buyers assuming all sellers are shady back street spivs,</p>
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