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		<title>By: Store Your Stuff aka Jade</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-28923</link>
		<dc:creator>Store Your Stuff aka Jade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers Sue, is there a specific date?</description>
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		<title>By: Sue Bailey</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-28922</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May, Jade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May, Jade.</p>
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		<title>By: Store Your Stuff aka Jade</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-28917</link>
		<dc:creator>Store Your Stuff aka Jade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been trying to find out when the feedback changes go live, (specifically losing neg ability) I&#039;ve been looking for 1/2 an hour, does anyone care to put me out of my misery?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to find out when the feedback changes go live, (specifically losing neg ability) I&#8217;ve been looking for 1/2 an hour, does anyone care to put me out of my misery?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Dawson</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-25387</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PMSL Nigel, hadn&#039;t spotted that one. However since you ask (and since eBay are NEVER wrong ;-) )

New account, sells one item, gets a neg.... score is -1 and if they try to they buy from you you can block them  :grin:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PMSL Nigel, hadn&#8217;t spotted that one. However since you ask (and since eBay are NEVER wrong <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>New account, sells one item, gets a neg&#8230;. score is -1 and if they try to they buy from you you can block them  <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':grin:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Peacock</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-25386</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Peacock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On feedback changes, did nobody at eBay read their announcement?

In one place eBay says:

â€œSellers will no longer be able to leave negative or neutral Feedback for buyers.â€

In another place eBay  says: 
&quot;...Will sellers still have access to Buyer Requirements to manage their buyers? 

Yes. The Buyer requirements tool enables sellers to prevent or limit the buyers from bidding or buying their items if â€¦â€¦buyer has a negative FB score...&quot;

How exactly will a buyer ever again have a negative FB score, if seller can&#039;t give them one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On feedback changes, did nobody at eBay read their announcement?</p>
<p>In one place eBay says:</p>
<p>â€œSellers will no longer be able to leave negative or neutral Feedback for buyers.â€</p>
<p>In another place eBay  says:<br />
&#8220;&#8230;Will sellers still have access to Buyer Requirements to manage their buyers? </p>
<p>Yes. The Buyer requirements tool enables sellers to prevent or limit the buyers from bidding or buying their items if â€¦â€¦buyer has a negative FB score&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>How exactly will a buyer ever again have a negative FB score, if seller can&#8217;t give them one?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Wilson</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-25319</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Suz.  :smile:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Suz.  <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':smile:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jade</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-25317</link>
		<dc:creator>Jade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blimey Suz, I really like your trackable feedback Idea  :idea: but are you copying and pasting al those tracking No&#039;s manually? If so is that gonna get tedious?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blimey Suz, I really like your trackable feedback Idea  <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_idea.gif' alt=':idea:' class='wp-smiley' />  but are you copying and pasting al those tracking No&#8217;s manually? If so is that gonna get tedious?</p>
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		<title>By: Suz</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-25316</link>
		<dc:creator>Suz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pleasantly suprised here - had had 50 feedbacks left today from old and newer buyers, who have appreciated the turn around I have taken, - have had a good response to the tracking number on feedback system I am using - shows I have posted it and when - and that way the tracking is there for the world to see - 
Checked it this morning with eBay HQ and they said no reason why not

So- all in all - good

Have also emailed a couple of peeps I threw the rattle out of the pram with in the early days apologising and leaving feedback follow up comments, admiting I was out of order,

If it goes someway to restore faith in the PowerSellers of this community I for one will be pleased

From the nuclear fallout everywhere, I think that a lot of peeps who are finding these new ways of thinking hard to swallow are moving elsewhere- good is all I can say

In the past I mistakenly let red mist cloud me, over buyers, now I leave it first - and agree with Sue completely - it gives buyers confidence

Plus - I think the buyers can work out who is not playing fair when a seller gets a neg,,, especially if the seller has worked their socks off

Suz x
PS- Big thanks for Dan as well - his daily posts have got me rethinking my strategy completely 
x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pleasantly suprised here &#8211; had had 50 feedbacks left today from old and newer buyers, who have appreciated the turn around I have taken, &#8211; have had a good response to the tracking number on feedback system I am using &#8211; shows I have posted it and when &#8211; and that way the tracking is there for the world to see &#8211;<br />
Checked it this morning with eBay HQ and they said no reason why not</p>
<p>So- all in all &#8211; good</p>
<p>Have also emailed a couple of peeps I threw the rattle out of the pram with in the early days apologising and leaving feedback follow up comments, admiting I was out of order,</p>
<p>If it goes someway to restore faith in the PowerSellers of this community I for one will be pleased</p>
<p>From the nuclear fallout everywhere, I think that a lot of peeps who are finding these new ways of thinking hard to swallow are moving elsewhere- good is all I can say</p>
<p>In the past I mistakenly let red mist cloud me, over buyers, now I leave it first &#8211; and agree with Sue completely &#8211; it gives buyers confidence</p>
<p>Plus &#8211; I think the buyers can work out who is not playing fair when a seller gets a neg,,, especially if the seller has worked their socks off</p>
<p>Suz x<br />
PS- Big thanks for Dan as well &#8211; his daily posts have got me rethinking my strategy completely<br />
x</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Bailey</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-25314</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started leaving feedback first for everyone in August: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tamebay.com/2007/08/we-believe-that-people-are-basically-good.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&#039;s the post&lt;/a&gt;. My negs and neuts remained at the same level, and in fact I feel that buyers are more likely to give me the benefit of the doubt if, for example, deliveries are delayed, because they see the feedback I&#039;ve left and know I can&#039;t blackmail them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started leaving feedback first for everyone in August: <a href="http://www.tamebay.com/2007/08/we-believe-that-people-are-basically-good.html" rel="nofollow">here&#8217;s the post</a>. My negs and neuts remained at the same level, and in fact I feel that buyers are more likely to give me the benefit of the doubt if, for example, deliveries are delayed, because they see the feedback I&#8217;ve left and know I can&#8217;t blackmail them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jade</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-25312</link>
		<dc:creator>Jade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did start leaving positive on payment in November, my feeling was that the % of buyers who left any feedback went down (suggesting that some buyers maybe only leave you a feedback to get one themselves), and I got a neut from one of them which I felt was a little unjustified, they didn&#039;t contact me about any probs, just left a neut saying they thought the item was difficult to assemble (no mention of super fast service), I am left wondering if she would have done this if my feedback was going to follow. But then maybe that prooves ebays point?. I changed it back to after they left positive a couple of weeks after my experiment, but now I don&#039;t know what to do. I think overall the changes are good, but it will take a little getting used to, like I said in a previous comment, in 3 months we will all be wondering what all the fuss was about! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did start leaving positive on payment in November, my feeling was that the % of buyers who left any feedback went down (suggesting that some buyers maybe only leave you a feedback to get one themselves), and I got a neut from one of them which I felt was a little unjustified, they didn&#8217;t contact me about any probs, just left a neut saying they thought the item was difficult to assemble (no mention of super fast service), I am left wondering if she would have done this if my feedback was going to follow. But then maybe that prooves ebays point?. I changed it back to after they left positive a couple of weeks after my experiment, but now I don&#8217;t know what to do. I think overall the changes are good, but it will take a little getting used to, like I said in a previous comment, in 3 months we will all be wondering what all the fuss was about! <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gill</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-25291</link>
		<dc:creator>Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deep breath, paper bag at the ready in case of panic attacks, I&#039;ve just done the same too  :shock: 

Will go and hide in my bunker now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deep breath, paper bag at the ready in case of panic attacks, I&#8217;ve just done the same too  <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Will go and hide in my bunker now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: northumbrian</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-25285</link>
		<dc:creator>northumbrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had lots of negs, quite a few in retaliation to our premptive strike, so who knows we may get less now we cant put the boot in first  :twisted:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had lots of negs, quite a few in retaliation to our premptive strike, so who knows we may get less now we cant put the boot in first  <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif' alt=':twisted:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mark Classic</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-25284</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Classic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have just done the same North, as this is where the system is pointing us, we may as well get on the train now...

We have not had a negative in four years (except an accidental one), this should be interesting :-)

But if these issues do come up, it will come up all over, with all sellers and again it will average out.

We do like our 100% though :-)

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have just done the same North, as this is where the system is pointing us, we may as well get on the train now&#8230;</p>
<p>We have not had a negative in four years (except an accidental one), this should be interesting <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But if these issues do come up, it will come up all over, with all sellers and again it will average out.</p>
<p>We do like our 100% though <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: northumbrian</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-25276</link>
		<dc:creator>northumbrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish us luck, and tell the kids we love them if we dont return,

we have embarked onto great unknown and changed our prefrence to leave feedback on Payment, on one of our IDs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish us luck, and tell the kids we love them if we dont return,</p>
<p>we have embarked onto great unknown and changed our prefrence to leave feedback on Payment, on one of our IDs</p>
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		<title>By: northumbrian</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-25265</link>
		<dc:creator>northumbrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wont make no matter we cant bugger up their feedback now 

 :twisted: 

one big draw  back with this is you cant sus a dodgy buyer out I have a non payer who when I look at their feedback
is obviously a serial non payer,
 I know ebay will eventually kick off the likes of these  if enough sellers file UPI though many sellers are going to be even more reluctant to file UPIs because of the increased chance of a neg, because UPis really get up non payers noses for some reason

I am diligent  to the point of obsession with my UPIs

so no doubt my negs will go up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wont make no matter we cant bugger up their feedback now </p>
<p> <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif' alt=':twisted:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>one big draw  back with this is you cant sus a dodgy buyer out I have a non payer who when I look at their feedback<br />
is obviously a serial non payer,<br />
 I know ebay will eventually kick off the likes of these  if enough sellers file UPI though many sellers are going to be even more reluctant to file UPIs because of the increased chance of a neg, because UPis really get up non payers noses for some reason</p>
<p>I am diligent  to the point of obsession with my UPIs</p>
<p>so no doubt my negs will go up</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Bailey</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-25263</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And another thing.&quot;

If sellers can&#039;t leave non-pozzies, then I think comments are going to become a lot more important. When are we going to see the end of private feedback for buyers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And another thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>If sellers can&#8217;t leave non-pozzies, then I think comments are going to become a lot more important. When are we going to see the end of private feedback for buyers?</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Bailey</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-25262</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean, that&#039;s only for non-pozzies:
&lt;i&gt;Buyers must wait three days before leaving negative or neutral Feedback
&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean, that&#8217;s only for non-pozzies:<br />
<i>Buyers must wait three days before leaving negative or neutral Feedback<br />
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		<title>By: Sean Mewse</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-25261</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Mewse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One point that may effect how many feedbacks we receive is, that under the new system buyers will not be able to leave feedback until the third day after purchase (this is how I read it, I maybe wrong). This has its advantages, but most of our orders are received by our buyers the day after ordering, Royal Mail permitting. And most feedback is left for us then, are buyers going to remember to come back a couple of days later to leave feedback, or even be bothered. 
Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One point that may effect how many feedbacks we receive is, that under the new system buyers will not be able to leave feedback until the third day after purchase (this is how I read it, I maybe wrong). This has its advantages, but most of our orders are received by our buyers the day after ordering, Royal Mail permitting. And most feedback is left for us then, are buyers going to remember to come back a couple of days later to leave feedback, or even be bothered.<br />
Sean</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Bailey</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-25258</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh well I&#039;ve answered my own question about MFW. &lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.ebay.co.uk/thread.jspa?messageID=1103766519&amp;forumID=15#1103766519&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;From the PSB&lt;/a&gt;: 
&lt;i&gt;Re: Mutual Feedback Withdrawal. We&#039;re not planning on phasing it out. We&#039;ll be modifying the process so that erroneous feedback comments can still be dealt with.
&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh well I&#8217;ve answered my own question about MFW. <a href="http://forums.ebay.co.uk/thread.jspa?messageID=1103766519&#038;forumID=15#1103766519" rel="nofollow">From the PSB</a>:<br />
<i>Re: Mutual Feedback Withdrawal. We&#8217;re not planning on phasing it out. We&#8217;ll be modifying the process so that erroneous feedback comments can still be dealt with.<br />
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		<title>By: Sue Bailey</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-25257</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The MFW system will be ended.

I appreciate that it will no longer be &quot;mutual&quot;, but now where is the incentive for sellers to sort out buyers who have prematurely left negs? Previously, there was the thought that at least a made-happy buyer might withdraw their feedback. Am I missing something, or has this facility now been removed altogether?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MFW system will be ended.</p>
<p>I appreciate that it will no longer be &#8220;mutual&#8221;, but now where is the incentive for sellers to sort out buyers who have prematurely left negs? Previously, there was the thought that at least a made-happy buyer might withdraw their feedback. Am I missing something, or has this facility now been removed altogether?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Mewse</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-25249</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Mewse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I have never given a negative to a buyer even if he/she has left one for me. My first cause of action is to try to sort out whatever caused them to leave the negative, first I would email and if no response I would lift the details and phone them. 

A few times I have found that the phone numbers are not valid so I never find out what the problem is. 

If eBay are going to stop us leaving suitable feedback for buyers then they must make sure that ALL communication channels i.e phone numbers are available, if the phone details are not valid eBay should automatically remove the feedback left by the buyer.

I would have liked eBay to go even further with the feedback system and to end the stars altogether and use the DSR scores only, but I suspect I am in the minority on this one. Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I have never given a negative to a buyer even if he/she has left one for me. My first cause of action is to try to sort out whatever caused them to leave the negative, first I would email and if no response I would lift the details and phone them. </p>
<p>A few times I have found that the phone numbers are not valid so I never find out what the problem is. </p>
<p>If eBay are going to stop us leaving suitable feedback for buyers then they must make sure that ALL communication channels i.e phone numbers are available, if the phone details are not valid eBay should automatically remove the feedback left by the buyer.</p>
<p>I would have liked eBay to go even further with the feedback system and to end the stars altogether and use the DSR scores only, but I suspect I am in the minority on this one. Sean</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks good on paper &amp; if it helps encourage buyers, then it makes sound economic sense. However, I do have a niggling doubt.

Staff members here (usually females for some reason) have been threatened with violence by eBay buyers in the past. Every case was reported to eBay but as the threats were made either over the phone or in an email where the initial message was sent via eBay but by the time of the threat, myself &amp; the buyer ended up emailing each other direct (too difficult to keep track of who said what via My Messages), eBay showed zero interest. Under the new system, I presumably wouldn&#039;t even be able to neg them but such people have to be shown a negative consequence to their actions (even if it&#039;s hollow one in all but their perception) otherwise they&#039;ll continue to do it.

I think the beauty of eBay in its early days was the flexibility to be found in its simplicity. Give buyers &amp; sellers certain tools like feedback &amp; leave it up to them how they choose to use them. Laying down very specific rules (which are seemingly complex for casual users) to govern users&#039; actions limits the users&#039; options &amp; thus doesn&#039;t cover as many eventualities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks good on paper &amp; if it helps encourage buyers, then it makes sound economic sense. However, I do have a niggling doubt.</p>
<p>Staff members here (usually females for some reason) have been threatened with violence by eBay buyers in the past. Every case was reported to eBay but as the threats were made either over the phone or in an email where the initial message was sent via eBay but by the time of the threat, myself &amp; the buyer ended up emailing each other direct (too difficult to keep track of who said what via My Messages), eBay showed zero interest. Under the new system, I presumably wouldn&#8217;t even be able to neg them but such people have to be shown a negative consequence to their actions (even if it&#8217;s hollow one in all but their perception) otherwise they&#8217;ll continue to do it.</p>
<p>I think the beauty of eBay in its early days was the flexibility to be found in its simplicity. Give buyers &amp; sellers certain tools like feedback &amp; leave it up to them how they choose to use them. Laying down very specific rules (which are seemingly complex for casual users) to govern users&#8217; actions limits the users&#8217; options &amp; thus doesn&#8217;t cover as many eventualities.</p>
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		<title>By: Suz</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-25204</link>
		<dc:creator>Suz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:shock: 

I took the decision today based on the annoucements to leave all my buyers feedback -if they have paid within 7 days, (or within the 2 weeks on an NPB). 

All positive, including the ones who werent happy as they had put on/lost weight didnt like the colour, - with a comments along the lines of Sorry this one wasnt right for you this time, happy to refund on receipt etc and suprisingly so far so good.  

Some of my old customers have just left me feedback - as I think that they are realising what is going on see below;

Ta Suz! This is my replacement skirt, trust this seller 100%, many thanks 10/10

Absolutly a great an honest seller.Will deal again with Suz.A+++++++++++

awesum product cheers sue x

Now - all three are good customers who have shopped before with me - and know I am easy going, and hadnt initially left feedback - why
1 - she returned the first skirt for being the wrong shade of pink&amp; fit
2 - He is in Italy and wanted cheaper postage- so I did it at cost and I paid for the majority of the tracking - 
3 - he has been complaining that an item sent Thurs hadnt arrived by Mon, and I sent him the tracking numbers today 

All three have mailed me seperately saying, along the lines of we didnt think you would mind, but we didnt leave feedback as we put you to so much trouble.   I found that comment very enlightening, and also quite sad, it is a shame that buyers can&#039;t return items to business sellers as they refuse to take them,  and then warn others on feedback about shoddy sellers, or tell peeps when an item goes missing in the post, for fear of getting a neg back.

Face it as sellers we have thousands of feedback between us the odd neg - might just be justified, in our haste to do something, we might have overlooked something important to someone else, very very easily,- we deal with hundreds of parcels a week- they get 1 for instance -  a newbie whose parcel got lost in the post so it misses daughters birthday, could leave a neutral and think its justifed and sellers come along and drop them to -1 f/b and a 50% score- I am not suprised that coupled with the rogue scamming sellers and the media stories are forcing buyers to look else where.

I for one, am going to lump it and get on with it.  And hope that putting a slip in with their parcel along the lines of :

I have already left feedback for you as eBay is a trust system &amp; I want buyers to shop with complete confidence.
Like your purchase? Please let me know via feedback or email. The quick link to my eBay store is xxxx
Thanks for shopping with me,  Suz xx

PS - If for any reason you are not 100% happy for no a
quibbles refund or exchange call me on  07779 xxx xxx, or 01625 xxxxxxx or email me at xxxxx@xxxx.co.uk

And I hope this makes the buyer think, hey I dont like this - lets try this returns policy - gets what they want as an exchange and then comes back again and again and again and spends.....

Initial loss to the seller, long term profitability to customer and seller

Bold move by eBay, but I think a good one
Only time will tell

I would also think that in my honest opinion those sellers jumping up and down and screaming about this- are those who have need to fear this- if you offer a good service, dont con buyers, etc etc, I would imagine you have no need to worry

As for the buyer, for them - it gives confidence, and that is something eBay is sadly lacking at the moment

Off me soapbox now - sorry this is so long
night all 
Suz x
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I took the decision today based on the annoucements to leave all my buyers feedback -if they have paid within 7 days, (or within the 2 weeks on an NPB). </p>
<p>All positive, including the ones who werent happy as they had put on/lost weight didnt like the colour, &#8211; with a comments along the lines of Sorry this one wasnt right for you this time, happy to refund on receipt etc and suprisingly so far so good.  </p>
<p>Some of my old customers have just left me feedback &#8211; as I think that they are realising what is going on see below;</p>
<p>Ta Suz! This is my replacement skirt, trust this seller 100%, many thanks 10/10</p>
<p>Absolutly a great an honest seller.Will deal again with Suz.A+++++++++++</p>
<p>awesum product cheers sue x</p>
<p>Now &#8211; all three are good customers who have shopped before with me &#8211; and know I am easy going, and hadnt initially left feedback &#8211; why<br />
1 &#8211; she returned the first skirt for being the wrong shade of pink&amp; fit<br />
2 &#8211; He is in Italy and wanted cheaper postage- so I did it at cost and I paid for the majority of the tracking &#8211;<br />
3 &#8211; he has been complaining that an item sent Thurs hadnt arrived by Mon, and I sent him the tracking numbers today </p>
<p>All three have mailed me seperately saying, along the lines of we didnt think you would mind, but we didnt leave feedback as we put you to so much trouble.   I found that comment very enlightening, and also quite sad, it is a shame that buyers can&#8217;t return items to business sellers as they refuse to take them,  and then warn others on feedback about shoddy sellers, or tell peeps when an item goes missing in the post, for fear of getting a neg back.</p>
<p>Face it as sellers we have thousands of feedback between us the odd neg &#8211; might just be justified, in our haste to do something, we might have overlooked something important to someone else, very very easily,- we deal with hundreds of parcels a week- they get 1 for instance &#8211;  a newbie whose parcel got lost in the post so it misses daughters birthday, could leave a neutral and think its justifed and sellers come along and drop them to -1 f/b and a 50% score- I am not suprised that coupled with the rogue scamming sellers and the media stories are forcing buyers to look else where.</p>
<p>I for one, am going to lump it and get on with it.  And hope that putting a slip in with their parcel along the lines of :</p>
<p>I have already left feedback for you as eBay is a trust system &amp; I want buyers to shop with complete confidence.<br />
Like your purchase? Please let me know via feedback or email. The quick link to my eBay store is xxxx<br />
Thanks for shopping with me,  Suz xx</p>
<p>PS &#8211; If for any reason you are not 100% happy for no a<br />
quibbles refund or exchange call me on  07779 xxx xxx, or 01625 xxxxxxx or email me at <a href="mailto:xxxxx@xxxx.co.uk">xxxxx@xxxx.co.uk</a></p>
<p>And I hope this makes the buyer think, hey I dont like this &#8211; lets try this returns policy &#8211; gets what they want as an exchange and then comes back again and again and again and spends&#8230;..</p>
<p>Initial loss to the seller, long term profitability to customer and seller</p>
<p>Bold move by eBay, but I think a good one<br />
Only time will tell</p>
<p>I would also think that in my honest opinion those sellers jumping up and down and screaming about this- are those who have need to fear this- if you offer a good service, dont con buyers, etc etc, I would imagine you have no need to worry</p>
<p>As for the buyer, for them &#8211; it gives confidence, and that is something eBay is sadly lacking at the moment</p>
<p>Off me soapbox now &#8211; sorry this is so long<br />
night all<br />
Suz x<br />
 <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gill</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-25194</link>
		<dc:creator>Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt sellers will be swamped with negs, I do think there is bound to be *some* increase in neutrals and negs though, particularly if ebay continues with the gung-ho encouragement to buyers seen in recent weeks. Not left feedback? - Go on, why not open a dispute... About to leave feedback - hey the seller can&#039;t see what you put, so do your best to slate them on the DSRs. etc  

I believe there is a very tiny minority who will neg just because they can and they don&#039;t want to be reasonable - if that number is as tiny as one in 1000, that would equate to 20 negs for me over the past year  :shock:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt sellers will be swamped with negs, I do think there is bound to be *some* increase in neutrals and negs though, particularly if ebay continues with the gung-ho encouragement to buyers seen in recent weeks. Not left feedback? &#8211; Go on, why not open a dispute&#8230; About to leave feedback &#8211; hey the seller can&#8217;t see what you put, so do your best to slate them on the DSRs. etc  </p>
<p>I believe there is a very tiny minority who will neg just because they can and they don&#8217;t want to be reasonable &#8211; if that number is as tiny as one in 1000, that would equate to 20 negs for me over the past year  <img src='http://tamebay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Swan</title>
		<link>http://tamebay.com/2008/01/feedback-changes-in-2008.html#comment-25193</link>
		<dc:creator>Swan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris according to the announcement from when it starts feedback percentage will be number of pos divided by total number of feedback left (pos + beg +neut) so that repeat feedback counts and neuts and negs go towards your percentage. I have 14 neut and no negs in last year so my feedback % will be 99.6, not 100% as you imply(current feedback over 3 years trading 99.9)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris according to the announcement from when it starts feedback percentage will be number of pos divided by total number of feedback left (pos + beg +neut) so that repeat feedback counts and neuts and negs go towards your percentage. I have 14 neut and no negs in last year so my feedback % will be 99.6, not 100% as you imply(current feedback over 3 years trading 99.9)</p>
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