Comments on: “I have to question their timing” http://tamebay.com/2007/10/i-have-to-question-their-timing.html eBay & ecommerce made easy Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:10:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Swan http://tamebay.com/2007/10/i-have-to-question-their-timing.html#comment-14557 Swan Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:45:58 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/2007/10/i-have-to-question-their-timing.html#comment-14557 Toy Town Express is right, we both stock a range which I have never sold before on Ebay. At 35p a listing and making a net £1 or so profit I have never considered listing the 50 or so items in the range, it would need a 35% sell through rate to break even but under these new prices it would cost me less than half the listing fees and with the reduced profit I would only need a 20% sell through. So more competition on this range, bad news for everyone Toy Town Express is right, we both stock a range which I have never sold before on Ebay. At 35p a listing and making a net £1 or so profit I have never considered listing the 50 or so items in the range, it would need a 35% sell through rate to break even but under these new prices it would cost me less than half the listing fees and with the reduced profit I would only need a 20% sell through. So more competition on this range, bad news for everyone

]]> By: Toy Town Express http://tamebay.com/2007/10/i-have-to-question-their-timing.html#comment-14555 Toy Town Express Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:21:55 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/2007/10/i-have-to-question-their-timing.html#comment-14555 Hi Scott, Over the dates that have been announced I believe my cost per sale rate will increase, if it is extended to say over a year then by my workings my CPS will decrease.There are other factors to consider though, it will encourage more listings and competition so my penetration rate will decrease. Hi Scott, Over the dates that have been announced I believe my cost per sale rate will increase, if it is extended to say over a year then by my workings my CPS will decrease.There are other factors to consider though, it will encourage more listings and competition so my penetration rate will decrease.

]]> By: Swan http://tamebay.com/2007/10/i-have-to-question-their-timing.html#comment-14554 Swan Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:15:49 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/2007/10/i-have-to-question-their-timing.html#comment-14554 These FVF increases for the Christmas selling period are a little cynical, lets hope that they keep them all year round afterwards! Hope against experience there. Amazon got caught out last year by a large business, that was going under, flooding both it and Ebay with thousands of listings in the run up to Christmas. On both sites it ended up with awful feedback (96.4 on Ebay) because it was triple listing all its stock.( Amazon, Ebay and website) Almost all its feedback was about out of stock sales BUT ebayers know they are buying from a seller and blame the seller. Amazon users (Amazonians?) think they are buying from Amazon and blame Amazon for out of stocks. The worry for Amazon is that 75%+ of its sellers will be unable to sell if they get 4 or 5 negs in the next month and Amazon could end up with no Christmas stock. These FVF increases for the Christmas selling period are a little cynical, lets hope that they keep them all year round afterwards! Hope against experience there.

Amazon got caught out last year by a large business, that was going under, flooding both it and Ebay with thousands of listings in the run up to Christmas. On both sites it ended up with awful feedback (96.4 on Ebay) because it was triple listing all its stock.( Amazon, Ebay and website) Almost all its feedback was about out of stock sales BUT ebayers know they are buying from a seller and blame the seller. Amazon users (Amazonians?) think they are buying from Amazon and blame Amazon for out of stocks.

The worry for Amazon is that 75%+ of its sellers will be unable to sell if they get 4 or 5 negs in the next month and Amazon could end up with no Christmas stock.

]]> By: Kate http://tamebay.com/2007/10/i-have-to-question-their-timing.html#comment-14512 Kate Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:38:00 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/2007/10/i-have-to-question-their-timing.html#comment-14512 Although there was certainly a price hike in the media categories, I don't think that that is entirely to blame for falling prices - where CDs are concerned the market is falling generally - where once you could get good prices for 70s and 80s CDs you can now buy them brand new for under a fiver in the supermarkets, and add that to the fact that every other person I speak to says "I'm getting rid of my CDs because I've got them all on an MP3 player now" (Despite the fact that not owning the original is illegal), then CD sellers don't really stand a chance. Especially when yes, ebay have increased the fees so bloody much and reduced visibility. Although there was certainly a price hike in the media categories, I don’t think that that is entirely to blame for falling prices – where CDs are concerned the market is falling generally – where once you could get good prices for 70s and 80s CDs you can now buy them brand new for under a fiver in the supermarkets, and add that to the fact that every other person I speak to says “I’m getting rid of my CDs because I’ve got them all on an MP3 player now” (Despite the fact that not owning the original is illegal), then CD sellers don’t really stand a chance. Especially when yes, ebay have increased the fees so bloody much and reduced visibility.

]]> By: Chris Dawson http://tamebay.com/2007/10/i-have-to-question-their-timing.html#comment-14494 Chris Dawson Sun, 14 Oct 2007 08:26:29 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/2007/10/i-have-to-question-their-timing.html#comment-14494 Toby what you are suggesting is known as "<a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-5232-2978-1/1?AID=9479574&PID=2040833&mpre=http%3A//pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/listing-circumventing.html" rel="nofollow">Fee Avoidance"</a> and is likely to get your listings cancelled :-( Toby what you are suggesting is known as “Fee Avoidance” and is likely to get your listings cancelled :-(

]]> By: Toby http://tamebay.com/2007/10/i-have-to-question-their-timing.html#comment-14479 Toby Sun, 14 Oct 2007 01:44:36 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/2007/10/i-have-to-question-their-timing.html#comment-14479 Everyone just needs to adjust their price/S&H ratio so there is no FVF increase. At least it isn't as extreme as the UK media catagories, where the real problem is in addition to the fees ending up being more, it encouraged more duplicate listings/lower sale rate and therefor ever falling prices. Everyone just needs to adjust their price/S&H ratio so there is no FVF increase.

At least it isn’t as extreme as the UK media catagories, where the real problem is in addition to the fees ending up being more, it encouraged more duplicate listings/lower sale rate and therefor ever falling prices.

]]> By: Scot Wingo http://tamebay.com/2007/10/i-have-to-question-their-timing.html#comment-14441 Scot Wingo Sat, 13 Oct 2007 02:54:51 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/2007/10/i-have-to-question-their-timing.html#comment-14441 This was very interesting - thanks for taking the time. I did have a question, do you think this will increase, decrease, or no change to your eBay "take rate"? (the % you pay ebay including listing fees and final value fees?) Scot This was very interesting – thanks for taking the time. I did have a question, do you think this will increase, decrease, or no change to your eBay “take rate”? (the % you pay ebay including listing fees and final value fees?)

Scot

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