Comments on: eBay Community Court: the end of retaliatory negatives? http://tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html eBay & ecommerce made easy Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:57:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Community Court cancelled indefinately : TameBay http://tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-24132 Community Court cancelled indefinately : TameBay Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:24:18 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-24132 [...] in October eBay announced trials of the Community Court would commence early in the new year. Community court was touted as a way to allow those who feel [...] [...] in October eBay announced trials of the Community Court would commence early in the new year. Community court was touted as a way to allow those who feel [...]

]]> By: Toby http://tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-16670 Toby Sat, 03 Nov 2007 22:31:11 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-16670 I suspect the removals will be mostly the auto neg retaliations from feedback hostage sellers. I wish they just go to double blind and leave it at that. I suspect the removals will be mostly the auto neg retaliations from feedback hostage sellers. I wish they just go to double blind and leave it at that.

]]> By: Richard http://tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-15928 Richard Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:51:20 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-15928 In the seven years I’ve been on eBay this has to be the most ridiculous idea I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen a good few in my time. I’m not sure whether I should be laughing, crying or just angry that such a daft idea ever got off the ground. It sounds like one of those ideas discussed over a pint or twenty after work on a Friday night, but come Monday morning you realise it really wasn’t such a good idea after all and it’s probably best left buried in the drunken haze of Friday night. Feedback is exactly that, two people’s opinions of a transaction nothing more. By removing the feedback does it actually change anything? Does it fix a broken item, does it make good a miss-described item, does it fix a payment gone bad, etc. no of course it doesn’t. Perhaps eBay should look into policing the site which carries heaven knows how many dodgy listings, fake items, obvious bad sellers, etc. on a daily basis rather than papering over the cracks. It fixes nothing and is just paying lip service to the real problems the site suffers. In the seven years I’ve been on eBay this has to be the most ridiculous idea I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen a good few in my time. I’m not sure whether I should be laughing, crying or just angry that such a daft idea ever got off the ground. It sounds like one of those ideas discussed over a pint or twenty after work on a Friday night, but come Monday morning you realise it really wasn’t such a good idea after all and it’s probably best left buried in the drunken haze of Friday night.

Feedback is exactly that, two people’s opinions of a transaction nothing more. By removing the feedback does it actually change anything? Does it fix a broken item, does it make good a miss-described item, does it fix a payment gone bad, etc. no of course it doesn’t. Perhaps eBay should look into policing the site which carries heaven knows how many dodgy listings, fake items, obvious bad sellers, etc. on a daily basis rather than papering over the cracks. It fixes nothing and is just paying lip service to the real problems the site suffers.

]]> By: Mobydick http://tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-15918 Mobydick Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:42:44 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-15918 Pathetic, ebay is getting to be so dumb. Court on ebay give me a break. Why don't they just keep on giving more and more bloody power to the buyer and keep ignoring the sellers concerns. How about all these idiot buyers who don't pay or create fake names and ebay does nothing about it? This is just as bad as ebay taking away the sellers ability to have a neg removed for fake contact information. Ebay is all about the buyers and craps all over the sellers who have made ebay what it is now. GROW UP EBAY!! Pathetic, ebay is getting to be so dumb.
Court on ebay give me a break.
Why don’t they just keep on giving more and more bloody power to the buyer and keep ignoring the sellers concerns.
How about all these idiot buyers who don’t pay or create fake names and ebay does nothing about it?
This is just as bad as ebay taking away the sellers ability to have a neg removed for fake contact information.
Ebay is all about the buyers and craps all over the sellers who have made ebay what it is now.
GROW UP EBAY!!

]]> By: John http://tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-15879 John Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:04:13 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-15879 Probably the biggest challenge with this is getting a significant amount of buyers actually interested in being jurors. Whenever you get a large group of "eBayers" together you inevitably end up with a small percentage that do more buying than selling. This is evident on any discussion board, blog, etc where you ask for only the opinion of buyers, you get quite a few opinions of sellers. Probably the biggest challenge with this is getting a significant amount of buyers actually interested in being jurors.

Whenever you get a large group of “eBayers” together you inevitably end up with a small percentage that do more buying than selling.

This is evident on any discussion board, blog, etc where you ask for only the opinion of buyers, you get quite a few opinions of sellers.

]]> By: Mark http://tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-15871 Mark Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:15:09 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-15871 Northumbrian could be right - it could be bogged down with legalities, but fundamentally I think it's an excellent idea! I know they've been working on this since early 2007 at least. Northumbrian could be right – it could be bogged down with legalities, but fundamentally I think it’s an excellent idea! I know they’ve been working on this since early 2007 at least.

]]> By: Allotment http://tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-15870 Allotment Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:13:52 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-15870 At the outset it seems a very good idea. If implemented well it has the potential to take the 'heat' out of the feedback exchange on a troubled transaction and to give help to those troubled by a failing transaction. It would be nice to know that there would be a fairly even balance of buyers/sellers in the 100 jury members selected for each 'appeal'. Might there be some Data Protection Act issues re the release of personal data to third parties (jury members in an uncontested case) without the defendant members approval. Suspect that eBays member contract already has this covered, but don't know for sure. A bigger thought ... Is there a possibility that it could it lead to other 'Jury' systems. e.g. removal of policy infringing items etc.... This could cut eBay support costs in a heartbeat, ....if it worked.... Linda At the outset it seems a very good idea. If implemented well it has the potential to take the ‘heat’ out of the feedback exchange on a troubled transaction and to give help to those troubled by a failing transaction.

It would be nice to know that there would be a fairly even balance of buyers/sellers in the 100 jury members selected for each ‘appeal’.

Might there be some Data Protection Act issues re the release of personal data to third parties (jury members in an uncontested case) without the defendant members approval. Suspect that eBays member contract already has this covered, but don’t know for sure.

A bigger thought … Is there a possibility that it could it lead to other ‘Jury’ systems. e.g. removal of policy infringing items etc…. This could cut eBay support costs in a heartbeat, ….if it worked….

Linda

]]> By: northumbrian http://tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-15857 northumbrian Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:02:00 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-15857 good chance it will get bogged down with legalities and red tape and ebay will dump their idea, these days I take negatives on the chin and get on with things the odd one makes no differance, plus the effort that goes into negative removal is just not profitable good chance it will get bogged down with legalities and red tape and ebay will dump their idea,
these days I take negatives on the chin and get on with things
the odd one makes no differance, plus the effort that goes into negative removal is just not profitable

]]> By: Dan http://tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-15852 Dan Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:33:14 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-15852 It's a bold trial. But ten people on a panel does seem like a lot. It’s a bold trial. But ten people on a panel does seem like a lot.

]]> By: northumbrian http://tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-15839 northumbrian Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:00:21 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-15839 seriously though I think its a good idea seriously though
I think its a good idea

]]> By: Sue Bailey http://tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-15825 Sue Bailey Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:42:02 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-15825 Ah, but North, we have you to keep our feet on the ground :-p Ah, but North, we have you to keep our feet on the ground :-p

]]> By: northumbrian http://tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-15824 northumbrian Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:39:23 +0000 http://www.tamebay.com/2007/10/ebay-community-court-the-end-of-retaliatory-negatives.html#comment-15824 the anoraks and ebay groupies will be orgasmic the anoraks and ebay groupies will be orgasmic

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